I remember the times when you could rent a videotape or cassette tape and then copy it to yours or even record it straight from tv or radio and everyone was earning decent money. How it happened that we turned culture into bureaucracy ?
Because those never would falsely identify anything? Because youtube does it so well? Because data isn’t encrypted?
On what planet does this make sense?
I’m sorry I can’t hear you over at the sounds of capitalism not caring about people being hit in the crossfire.
Green line must go up
“Yeah! Get that green line up! Brian Thompson sacriced himself for capitolisms sins…or something…”
~CEO’s probably.
Unfortunately nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
They don’t care at all unfortunately
On the “I dunno how you’ll do it, but you better find a way, bitch” planet.
Frankly something just went wrong in the first place from the very beginning.
They shouldn’t have any input on how infrastructure works. Especially “automated blocking”. You want to sue someone, do that. Messing with infrastructure without a court is just nuts, and if someone’s doing it, I hope there is another guy with Italian ancestry living nearby.
Doesn’t have to be Itailian. I’m not picky about supporting modern day Robinhood’s, regardless of background.
Also just ignore that core routers are super specialized to moving packets as fast as possible. Having to inspect every packet would ruin them, and literally nuke service speeds across the country.
A capitalist one
“Planet fuck you, get greedy”. That’s the name of the planet. It’s where CEOs come from.
I would like to once again thank the motion picture and recording industry associations for their contributions to both the sophistication of media piracy and the quality of content.
Without their efforts, we would probably all still be playing Russian Roulette on Limewire for a low quality copy of Zoolander. The first person to record a movie on Betamax would probably shit themselves if they could have seen what could be accomplished with some arrogance, incompetence, and blind greed. There’s no doubt that you guys are the real MVP when it comes to promoting media piracy.
The anti-piracy industry couldn’t be more Mickey Mouse if it were run by the Marx Brothers.
Piracy is a service problem.
Provide a good enough service and people won’t want to pirate. Anyone that still does in that scenario probably was never going to be a sale anyway.
Provide a bad service and people who would have happily paid get pushed towards piracy. The more people pirating, the better the tools get as you say.
People just want all their shit in one place for a reasonable fee.
It’s not rocket science, they already were there back when Netflix was new, they just let it get shit.
AKA greed. Why license your content to Netflix when you can have your own streaming service and lock your viewers into your piddly little hoard of content?
Just how many streaming providers are there today? That number likely changes almost daily at this point…
The studios should release their own tracker with a premium file and send everyone a quarterly bill who uses it. I would pay it if it were reasonable… it’s only extra money for them.
People just want all their shit in one place for a reasonable fee.
One problem with this is that monopolies are bad.
I’m not sure what the ideal solution is. It’s not “12 different services each charging $12/month” though.
I don’t think regular capitalism can really solve this.
Compete on the service. All streamers have access to stream essentially whatever and they compete on price, quality and value added service.
Music streaming is almost there imo, if they paid the artists more, you want the highest quality? Go to tidal. You want infinite playlists? Deezer flow is where to go. You want podcasts? Spotify… I kid, Spotify’s ease of conectivity is an industry envy. But they all have, essentially, the same music, if you allow essentially to do some work.
I’m an outlier in that I buy music on Bandcamp. Renting music feels like a bad deal to me, but for some people it might work out.
I think I repeat listen to albums a lot more than I repeat watch stuff.
Still, I’d consider a service that was like “pay $10 for this movie and it’s yours, drm free, forever”. A quick search shows WandaVision on DVD is like $50, and you’d have to like rip and self host yourself to stream it.
I think the subscription model is often user hostile, but it’s very lucrative
Deezer flow has completely replaced commercial radio for me, except the DJ is at my behest. I listen to the radio at work and while driving, then albums at home.
Exactly, most of my irl friends pirate shows/tv but they all have spotify. Im considered “extra” by them for pirating music
It’s not “12 different services each charging $12/month” though.
Add to that content that is geolocked behind a pay wall that isn’t even made avaliable to access in my country.
“So you won’t make it possible for me to pay you for your content… Ok, I’ll just figure it out myself”.
Of course they do. They don’t want to pay for it. They just want it done at no extra cost to them. Just like copyright strikes against internet users.
I worked for a ISP and we started demanding money to roll a truck to hand those shitty things to our customers. We would tell the customer that they have no idea who they are and if they don’t respond they never will. We stopped getting so many strikes. The absolute shittiest ones I spoke with were the ones with the Grateful Dead’s lead singers family trust.
None of them ever paid for us to roll a truck. None of them ever served a subpoena.
Italy did that. No lessons were learned. No fix is in sight. It gets worse every day.
Jesus Christ on a pogo stick.
This entire system immediately fails as soon as someone uses a VPN.
All pirates will use VPN, so this horrorshow of a system literally just only punishes innocent people
Great going, assholes.
Right, like a router can unencrypt and read what’s on the link. This is just IP blocks which will never work lol.
“Hey there customer, if you want internet access on our network (the only one available in your area), you have to install our intermediary certificate on your machine!”
Also $3/mon certificate fee. To bring you the best possible service.
From having worked in an enterprise environment, there’s a chunk of websites that break when you intercept their SSL connection.
Oh yea definitely, I know this pain very well
Hopefully all of them, since that’s how network security works
Not really, because the client system is configured to go through the proxy. That proxy will connect to the website and do filtering on the unencrypted content because it is initiating the connection. Next it’ll re-encrypt everything with its own certificate and serve it to the client.
Oh you’re talking about enterprise scale mitm attacks on your own coworkers not the general case.
Yes, but that’s what you would need to do and get if everyone had to install an intermediate cert.
Hello, VPN
“Oh sorry, looks like we couldn’t decrypt that traffic, those packets went to the burn pile”
How do they know what qualifies as “encrypted” vs a binary blob that could be a photo or something?
File headers, magic bits, all sorts of stuff. Plus you can (and they do) try to load common file types, so if a PNG isn’t loading correctly, it fails the test.
“Copyright industry” is such a weird term. Why not use the term everyone already knows, media companies.
Intellect gatekeepers. Killers of progress.
They somehow believe that ideas and concepts can be owned by one person only, barring everyone else who is doing something similar.
Freedom of thought and freedom of expression requires freedom from intellectual property.
It’s not the same. There’s all those lawyers specialized in copyright. Companies that track down “piracy”. Then there’s rights owners like the Disney corporation or JK Rowling. Rights management firms. Online platforms like Getty or Adobe.
Pretty sure everyone just calls them “assholes”.
Funny thing about the internet is we can just find a different route. Fucking idiots.
Core routers are the core.
Internet infrastructure in the US in particular isn’t a monolith like that. A “core router” is a high capacity router in an autonomous system that will usually communicate with other core routers in other systems, owned by different and often competing entities
That’s not exactly how it works. There is no specific core, all web traffic doesn’t go through one centralized location; it gets routed through the most direct route on each if these routers’ routing tables
Also, I’m pretty sure they can’t do shit about encapsulated data, such as VPN traffic.
You can’t even truly read what’s inside of an SSL packet. They probably want to fuck with the routes around torrent trackers.
There are always ways around, tor, retro share, i2p. I kind of wish we’d find a harder to track version of torrent.
Torrents are already very hard to block. You don’t actually need a tracker, because all modern torrent clients support DHT (distributed hash table). You only need some way to get the initial hash for a torrent, so that’s where trackers are still useful, but once you’re connected to the swarm, you can only be blocked if the entire swarm is blocked.
Tracking though… It’s too easy to get IP addresses for the entire swarm and I don’t see how you could ever fix that. Tor doesn’t really solve that issue either, it just moves it to places where you won’t get in legal trouble or to people who don’t mind getting in legal trouble, a bit like VPN providers.
I wonder what the legality would be of seeding the binary difference between the wikipedia.zim and a copy of the wild robot. But I digress… We could probably bolt on something I2P like to torrent, have everything pass through multiple nodes. I fear the best we could ever work out would be plausible deniability.
My point is, if you’re blocked traversing the routers across the sea you’re not reaching those other continents. That’s a bit of a simplistic way of looking at it, given satellite internet and stuff but my point is it is not that incredibly hard to block the routes. Especially with BGP. BGP on the internet also has some bodies regulating route ASN reputation, so those could be potentially null routed.
Anyways, I clearly have no clue what I’m talking about so I’ll stop there.
Well, Cloudflare.
You can poison the routes within the BGP core to send traffic into a black hole. Basically, just tell everyone you have the best path, and they will send traffic to you.
There have been instances of this at the international level with adversary nations “accidentally” routing all traffic through them first. It can be done to a degree that it makes life difficult. They won’t be able to prevent you from finding a VPN that pops you out near a router that refuses the poisoned routes however- not without a global agreement at least.
Why not make routers do the same thing with criticizing the rich on twitter or facebook ?
