Can anyone succinctly explain communism? Everything I’ve read in the past said that the state owns the means of production and in practice (in real life) that seems to be the reality. However I encountered a random idiot on the Internet that claimed in communism, there is no state and it is a stateless society. I immediately rejected this idea because it was counter to what I knew about communism irl. In searching using these keywords, I came across the ideas that in communism, it does strive to be a stateless society. So which one is it? If it’s supposed to be a stateless society, why are all real-life forms of communism authoritarian in nature?

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    Revolution is required to bring it about. You can observe the various successes and struggles faced by existing Socialist societies and historical Socialist societies to see what has worked and what hasn’t quite worked for how to organize it.

    Moreover, every system is going to be susceptible to corruption and greed, Socialism would be more resiliant against it due to focusing production on fulfilling needs, rather than profits as a rule.

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        Not necessarily, this is extremely oversimplified.

        First, Marxists advocate for building Dual Power, ie an existing “second government” to take the place of the first.

        Second, Humans don’t “crave power.” Humans work towards their own self-interest, but this alone doesn’t translate to “power.”

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          Advocate. Its a nice sediment. But in reality a strongman will fill that vacuum. Always has, always will.

          Let’s substitute the word power for dominion. The “ideal” human doesn’t want power or dominion, but you and I don’t live in that world. People in every nation on this Earth have a presiding desire for control; control nature, control the elements, control others. Everywhere humans want control over others.

          It may not be the way we want it to be, but it is how it is.

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            3 days ago

            No, what you say isn’t true at all, nor are you speaking in real terms but vibes. You’re historically wrong and sociologically wrong.