• Hylactor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    911·
    2 days ago

    I recently saw the movie Titanic for the first time. It honestly made me pretty mad how directly it relates to the problems of the intervening years since it came out. In the movie: rich people are not to be trusted, the experts are ignored in favor of media coverage, the poor are trapped below decks, there aren’t enough life boats, by the time people start accepting reality it’s too late. It’s almost all too perfect. The iceberg can be global warming, or the pandemic, or the return of fascism, basically any of the major calamities of the past 10 years. And everyone saw the movie. It was a massive hit. And all anyone took away from it was that Rose gets naked. So both the movie, and the response to the message of the movie, are almost too on the nose.

    • Tin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      1 day ago

      Titanic nerd here. There are definitely lessons that we’ve still not learned. Greed and hubris are easily spotted, but the more insidious enemy that doomed Titanic was complacency. In 1912 there was a real sentiment that man was the master of the universe, that war was a thing of the past, that modern science made ships practically unsinkable… none of that was true, of course.

      Jack Thayer, a survivor, later wrote about how the Titanic sinking presaged a sea change in the world, and not for the better:

      “There was peace and the world had an even tenor to its way. Nothing was revealed in the morning the trend of which was not known the night before. It seems to me that the disaster about to occur was the event that not only made the world rub its eyes and awake, but woke it with a start, keeping it moving at a rapidly accelerating pace ever since with less and less peace, satisfaction and happiness. To my mind the world of today awoke April 15th, 1912”

    • Monzcarro@feddit.ukEnglish
      28·
      2 days ago

      Really good points that I’ve not seen articulated this well before.

      I remember seeing the movie at the cinema when it came out and it really upset me. I cried all the way home and I was still tearful the next day at school. I really struggled to explain to people that no, it wasn’t about Leonardo DiCaprio, it was this catastrophic and unnecessary loss of life caused by greed and hubris

    • WordBox@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      1 day ago

      “Don’t look up” exemplifies this 1000x better. It’s frustrating AF but you have to remember to laugh or you’ll go nuts.

    • LordCrom@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      1 day ago

      Know what I took away from that movie… Rose is a bitch.

      She states that she married a good man and was married for 40 years or whatever.

      Then she dies and goes to her afterlife where she meets the guy she met for 3 days then fucked once.

      And there’s her loyal husband, waiting to meet her in the afterlife, but then realizes that she harbored this love of this little fucker their entire marriage, living a lie with him. He realized she was just using him the whole time.

      Rose is a bitch.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        15 hours ago

        What I took away from the movie is that in the depths of his clearly extensive research, James Cameron decided that out of 885 crew members and 1,317 passengers, not one of them had a story worth basing a movie around, so he had to make up multiple new ones (not just Jack and Rose, Rose’s fiance, Rose’s mother and Jack’s Italian friend were all fictional).

        Good thing none of them were alive anymore except maybe a baby or two or they would have probably gotten offended.

        And it makes me think his research was mostly the sort that certain WWII buffs do- learn every single detail about the tanks and the guns and the uniforms but not the name of anyone ranked below general.

  • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.worldEnglish
    651·
    2 days ago

    Excellent analogy.

    I used, “Why do starving people have distended stomachs? They can’t be starving with those big bellies, right?”

    The ship is more accurate and less upsetting, although shock can sometimes be compelling through cognitive dissonance. I think from now on I’ll start with the ship and progress from there.

    • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
      211·
      2 days ago

      Unfortunately, Republicans don’t care about logic or reality. They care only about winning.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
    251·
    2 days ago

    Those are the followers with no money.

    The actual Republicans who are leading the movement and making the most money are already on lifeboats because they know exactly what’s happening and are already trying to save themselves, their money and their families (exactly in that order)

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      31·
      1 day ago

      Exactly! I’ve been saying this for long now. The truly dangerous people aren’t stupid. If they were stupid, they’d be easily defeated. What makes them so dangerous is that they know exactly what’s going on and also know exactly how to manipulate people into eating dirt, because it tastes so well, and really, is a sign of proper wealth, because you can afford all that dirt, and don’t you want to buy more?

  • Rhaedas@fedia.io
    18·
    3 days ago

    They’ll be fine longer than everyone else. Until the hull snaps in half and comes crashing down. Yeah, it’s a good climate analogy.

  • surph_ninja@lemmy.worldEnglish
    156·
    3 days ago

    And Democrats are the band playing as the ship sinks.

    Really I guess they’re both the iceberg. Both parties keep breaking extraction records, and protect fracking.

      • Valmond@lemmy.worldEnglish
        45·
        2 days ago

        Lots of stuff bad in the USA but the economy isn’t one.

        Edit: lol angry anti USA people.

              • Valmond@lemmy.worldEnglish
                23·
                2 days ago

                I’m talking about the economy, which is booming, not about inequality which is down the drain.

                • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  3·
                  2 days ago

                  You’re talking about the part of the economy that establishment media and politicians focus on.

                  That part overwhelmingly measures how things are for the very rich while ignoring key metrics that better reflect how the ENTIRE economy is doing.

                  I’m talking about the ENTIRE economy, which in fact has gotten steadily worse ever since the early 70s with the only major anomalies being for the WORSE.