Not really. The “exact definition” of communist would be public ownership. Claiming that this is the same as state ownership, I think, would be giving way too much credit to China, it would imply that their government is legitimately carrying out the will of the public.
Also, “state-owned enterprises”, in China’s case, refer to capitalist enterprises in which the government is a major stakeholder. They’re publicly traded, are generally still primarily privately owned, they have profit motive, etc. That doesn’t sound particularly communist to me. These same kinds of enterprises exist all over Europe and North America, and we don’t call those “socialist or communist in nature.”
I have no idea what an anarchist communist is but I think this conversation got way off track. A communist country’s defining feature is that the public has (ostensibly) ownership of property which is typically through the state.
If you live on a literal commune somewhere of course the reality will be different.
The original conversation was regarding who produces pollution, a capitalist or communist nation, with my point being that it doesn’t matter what the form of government is.
No but state owned is the exact definition of communist. China has a communist government which allows a high degree of market/capitalist activity.
Not really. The “exact definition” of communist would be public ownership. Claiming that this is the same as state ownership, I think, would be giving way too much credit to China, it would imply that their government is legitimately carrying out the will of the public.
Also, “state-owned enterprises”, in China’s case, refer to capitalist enterprises in which the government is a major stakeholder. They’re publicly traded, are generally still primarily privately owned, they have profit motive, etc. That doesn’t sound particularly communist to me. These same kinds of enterprises exist all over Europe and North America, and we don’t call those “socialist or communist in nature.”
The anarchist communists that have existed for at least 180 years would probably disagree with you.
I have no idea what an anarchist communist is but I think this conversation got way off track. A communist country’s defining feature is that the public has (ostensibly) ownership of property which is typically through the state.
If you live on a literal commune somewhere of course the reality will be different.
The original conversation was regarding who produces pollution, a capitalist or communist nation, with my point being that it doesn’t matter what the form of government is.