And always gonna be. Go cry about it some more

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    Eh, good point about the secrecy. You’d have to really twist the lore into a pretzel in order to accommodate that and that ain’t worth it for what’s essentially a throwaway gag.

    As for bowing to haters, I definitely wouldn’t do that. I’d acknowledge that there is some controversy with a tongue-in-cheek reference but I wouldn’t take a side. That’s the fans’ job – and let’s be honest here, everyone who debates the canonicity of DSC is a Star Trek fan, just maybe not one of that particular show. People who hate Trek in general will not engage in debates about relative worth; to them, all of the shows suck.

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      everyone who debates the canonicity of DSC is a Star Trek fan, just maybe not one of that particular show.

      You’d think. But we’ve seen a lot here as the mod level and there are quite a few people who clearly aren’t fans of Star Trek with how they’ll whine about how there is a gay character or a trans character or a woman first officer/captain/admiral. Those people clearly missed the point of Star Trek.

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        Fair enough. I forgot that some people will happily inject themselves into any social group solely to complain about stuff.

        Sadly, there are always hooligans looking for a fight. Sometimes it’s to push a political agenda and someone’s it’s just because they love to fight.

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          It’s not just that. It’s people who claim to be Star Trek fans but actively ignore everything Star Trek stands for. Those aren’t people who injected themselves in to complain, they’re just deluded. You see it with every new series. People come out of the woodwork to complain about diversity or inclusion. Easy to forget now, but Voyager and DS9 both got insane amounts of flak for having a female and a black Captain, respectively. These are people who can quote Star Trek until they’re blue in the face but will never let what they’re quoting marinate.