Last part isn’t true, he was banned for refusing to give his own community a COC that was compatible with the freedesktop one. Which is quite an overreach IMHO.
I admit, I was partially wrong. The CoC violations occured outside freedesktop and he received an email from a freedesktop member stating that their CoC does extend outside their immediate project, to some extent.
This isn’t that unreasonable in my opinion, considering that his behavior “reflects on communities like [FreeDesktop] when [they] interact with and accept contributions from hyprland.”
Of course this should only apply to severe CoC violations considering that two different CoCs rarely overlap in full.
So the reason for the ban was that hyprland’s developer published their email exchange and wrote an extensive, surprisingly hostile blog post about it.
I genuinely recommend reading their exchange, I’ve rarely seen this amount of hostility and toxicity in an email exchange - followed up with “I hope we can resolve this constructively” and “I will be seeking legal action if you continue threatening to ban me”.
I have read them. While Vaxry makes his points in typical Vaxry fashion he’s not wrong IMHO.
I think it’s ridiculous and unprecedented to demand that other open source projects adhere to the rules of another project. If more projects would do that then where will it end? The big COC wars where camps of open source projects are split and fractured along opinions of how one should moderate their own communities? This is not the way to work together with others.
The demand was not about Vaxry’s own behaviour outside freedesktop, but about his community. I disagree that behaviour there reflects on freedesktop itself. Hell, I think a lot of people who use Hyprland couldn’t even explain what freedesktop is and does.
So in my opinion Vaxry was right to refuse the demand, and right to publish the email conversation about it. Openness in open source about these sorts of things is important. His hostility in writing about it is something else altogether. Feel free to judge him on that, but it doesn’t retroactively excuse freedesktop’s behaviour.
Last part isn’t true, he was banned for refusing to give his own community a COC that was compatible with the freedesktop one. Which is quite an overreach IMHO.
I admit, I was partially wrong. The CoC violations occured outside freedesktop and he received an email from a freedesktop member stating that their CoC does extend outside their immediate project, to some extent.
This isn’t that unreasonable in my opinion, considering that his behavior “reflects on communities like [FreeDesktop] when [they] interact with and accept contributions from hyprland.”
Of course this should only apply to severe CoC violations considering that two different CoCs rarely overlap in full.
So the reason for the ban was that hyprland’s developer published their email exchange and wrote an extensive, surprisingly hostile blog post about it.
I genuinely recommend reading their exchange, I’ve rarely seen this amount of hostility and toxicity in an email exchange - followed up with “I hope we can resolve this constructively” and “I will be seeking legal action if you continue threatening to ban me”.
I have read them. While Vaxry makes his points in typical Vaxry fashion he’s not wrong IMHO.
I think it’s ridiculous and unprecedented to demand that other open source projects adhere to the rules of another project. If more projects would do that then where will it end? The big COC wars where camps of open source projects are split and fractured along opinions of how one should moderate their own communities? This is not the way to work together with others.
The demand was not about Vaxry’s own behaviour outside freedesktop, but about his community. I disagree that behaviour there reflects on freedesktop itself. Hell, I think a lot of people who use Hyprland couldn’t even explain what freedesktop is and does.
So in my opinion Vaxry was right to refuse the demand, and right to publish the email conversation about it. Openness in open source about these sorts of things is important. His hostility in writing about it is something else altogether. Feel free to judge him on that, but it doesn’t retroactively excuse freedesktop’s behaviour.