• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I find your parasite comment a little appalling considering even mainstream news borrows most of their stories from entities like Reuters.

    I’m considering Reuters (and AP) as part of that general apparatus.

    Shrug, I dunno. I don’t see any independent sources of information arising that comes anywhere close to the level of the current system. Do you have any examples? Honest question. I see shoestring operations out there like Amy Goodman or The Young Turks or The Hartmann Show, but most of that seems to be just a meta-layer put down over top of the bedrock of mainstream news.

    Granted, what they do is more thoughtful (generally) than a lot of other stuff, but they are not really providing another source of news, they are just commenting on it. And I say this kind of thing is parasitic, because, without a source of information what are they going to be commenting and analyzing? I realize that a whole lot of cable, op-ed pages, radio, etc…is all in the same boat. Maybe 1% is actual news, the rest is weather, sports coverage, a whole lot of shout shows set up to be even sub-par compared to the likes of Jerry Springer as far as format and actual debate…

    Not saying “legacy media” is perfect, I’m just saying what we are told is going to be a replacement doesn’t seem to be happening, and the “social media” landscape is quite possibly far, far worse, due to how it is even further atomizing the populace and creating further alienation.

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      3 hours ago

      You mentioned YouTube and although it is a commercial platforms there is a lot of independent news media on it. I think you already mentioned the Young Turks, but here are some others.

      Democracy now

      Some more news

      The Majority Report

      The Evening Brief

      Breakthrough News

      TLDR news

      Secular Talk

      PragerU

      Some of these lean more towards opinion and commentary but that is just the world we live in.

      Outside of YouTube I like Ground News. Although not a publisher themselves they can really help to figure out what is going on all sides.

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        3 hours ago

        Yeah, I think I’ve seen nearly all of these (I’m watching Adam Mockler right now. I just watched Secular Talk and The Majority Report in just the past hour. :) I’m well aware of a lot of commentary on Youtube, and honestly, I love it. I’m a cord-cutter going back 20+ years). Although some are offered via podcasts, too, I think if YT decides to cut them off - and a few podcast hosting platforms decide to do the same - they are truly boned.

        I honestly wish it was otherwise. People have long grown used to - probably for well over a hundred years - for ads to fund their news. The expectation on the 'net about how information wants to be free has further driven revenues down along with general quality…and people are less and less willing to pay for newspapers.

        I wish some other model would emerge. Some gigantic collective maybe operating as a B-corp that did actual hard news, in multiple formats, collecting some nominal fee from watchers, and was NOT beholden to even one corporation and no billionaires. I think it would do a lot to reset this country. I just don’t know that anything like that exists.