Since its inception, Let’s Encrypt has been sending expiration notification emails to subscribers that have provided an email address to us. We will be ending this service on June 4, 2025. The decision to end this service is the result of the following factors:
- Over the past 10 years more and more of our subscribers have been able to put reliable automation into place for certificate renewal.
- Providing expiration notification emails means that we have to retain millions of email addresses connected to issuance records. As an organization that values privacy, removing this requirement is important to us.
- Providing expiration notifications costs Let’s Encrypt tens of thousands of dollars per year, money that we believe can be better spent on other aspects of our infrastructure.
- Providing expiration notifications adds complexity to our infrastructure, which takes time and attention to manage and increases the likelihood of mistakes being made. Over the long term, particularly as we add support for new service components, we need to manage overall complexity by phasing out system components that can no longer be justified.
OP, can you please remove the four spaces preceding each paragraph in your post? That syntax is for code formatting. It triggers a monospace font and puts each paragraph into a single line, forcing readers into painstaking horizontal scrolling to be able to read each one. It’s like trying to read a book through a keyhole.
Fixed it now, I didn’t realize that the copy and paste had those spaces in front.
Thanks!
Could be your client. With Sync it properly word wraps, and for myself I actually find this font easier to read
My “client” is Lemmy’s native UI, and is rendering it correctly according to markdown and html specs. If your client is wrapping it or using a variable-width font, then that’s convenient for you in this case, but it’s violating the spec. (This is somewhat common in mobile apps, so I guess you’re reading on a phone.)
Sync markup/rendering is presently a semi-completed conversion from reddit’s and it’s functional enough.
It doesn’t wrap in the default web interface.
And the default web interface should absolutely be our standard.
Yeah, I love Sync, but currently it’s the last thing I would pick to set a standard
It is not the client, that it is actually how markdown works. Every markdown guide specifically tells to avoid this indentation because its meant for code blocks which by default do not wrap text lines.
They’re talking specifically about the word wrapping. Note in their screenshot it is properly rendered in monospace code block font.
I know, clients not wrapping lines in codeblocks are also “rendering properly”. Wrapping it’s up to the client’s parser, reason why I noted to use the aproppriate syntax regardless.
Readable on Voyager as well.
EDIT: Not to say it looks good, but it’s readable.
The syntax colouring, really doesn’t help though. Standard font looks better for text blocks than a code block.
Change is hard, I get it, if this change is upsetting, I’d personally figure out the automation piece. it took me a bit but after getting it going it’s rock solid. If using Linux of some flavor, acme.sh works really well.
Calandar Apps have joined the chat
(Seriously, do people just not use them to set reminders?
do you not automate the renewal of your certificates?
the only time I’ve ever gotten the expiring cert emails is after i decommission a service that had certificates and no longer renew it.
It’s more than needing a reminder: Let’s Encrypt Certs are valid for a maximum of 90 days before they need to be reissued. Doing this 4 times (or more) a year, for years on end will be tedious and error prone.
Most tools that request and install Let’s Encrypt Certs automatically do this without the need for human interaction (30 days prior to the expiration) . Actually, they work so well you don’t notice the “behind the scenes work” that’s happening.
The problem is when this renewal process “stop working”. I’d been using Let’s Encrypt for years w/o problems, but eventually the client I was using wasn’t updating and it was using a deprecated Let’s Encrypt API. Ultimately, the cert stopped updating, but I got the email reminder from Let’s Encrypt and I was able to fix it w/o a disruption.
Now, this was just a server for personal use. So if the SSL cert expired, it would not be the end of the world. Plus, I would have gotten a bunch of SSL errors the next time my client was trying to sync data, and I probably would have dropped everything to fix it. But the email reminder was a convenient feature, which allowed me to fix it whenever I had time.
That said, if Let’s Encrypt wants to save some money for their free service, I’m certainly not going to complain (although I will miss it).
I use uptime kuma to check my certificate isn’t going to expire.
Also tells me if any of my services are down.
I scheduled a doctor’s appointment recently and they were confused when I opted out of SMS notifications. They were shocked when I whipped out my calendar to type the appointment in. 😅
I think yeah, most people don’t use calendars.My wife doesn’t even use one at work.
My dad though started using it after I implemented audible announcements of them in Home Assistant. He normally doesn’t use his phone or computer much, but this way anywhere he is in his house he is reminded 90min before the event and then at the event again. With this he never misses appointments at doctors and so on anymore. That was what pushed him to use a digital calendar, every missed appointment costs quite some money.
Since its inception, Let’s Encrypt has been sending expiration notification emails to subscribers that have provided an email address to us. We will be ending this service on June 4, 2025. The decision to end this service is the result of the following factors:
-
Over the past 10 years more and more of our subscribers have been able to put reliable automation into place for certificate renewal.
-
Providing expiration notification emails means that we have to retain millions of email addresses connected to issuance records. As an organization that values privacy, removing this requirement is important to us.
-
Providing expiration notifications costs Let’s Encrypt tens of thousands of dollars per year, money that we believe can be better spent on other aspects of our infrastructure.
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Providing expiration notifications adds complexity to our infrastructure, which takes time and attention to manage and increases the likelihood of mistakes being made. Over the long term, particularly as we add support for new service components, we need to manage overall complexity by phasing out system components that can no longer be justified.
Much easier to read
Ah thanks for pointing it out, I fixed the formatting.
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Well that kind of sucks. I wish they had more tutorials about how to automate then because if you’re not using http-01 via certbot due to port 80 being blocked, which if you’re on a residential line it’s pretty common, so then you have to use dns-01 and manual hooks which isn’t exactly clear for and documented well.
What manual hooks? All the systems I’ve used LE certs in have supported fully automatic DNS challenges.
If you use Caddy with ACME DNS, all of this can be automated.
If you also use Cloudflare, you can do that + traffic routing with cloudflared without any need for port forwarding .
Using nginx with certbot and duck DNS and I ended up using the manual option with a authentication, clean up, and post bash scripts and then final script that I called from chron job that called the scripts every three months.
Just from a beginning user of let’s encrypt, and while a software developer I’m not versed in backend development, and I found the documentation to be a bit hit or miss, understandable with a plethora of open source projects. Using certbot, because that’s the rabbit hole let’s encrypt first send you down, the documentation while available isn’t easy to navigate in my opinion and it took me a while to track down the variables used to pass down the text and the bulk examples found were all using http-01.
I just think that if your not someone with a background in tech, just wanting to get a server to and running with ssl following a bunch of other tutorials and guides, it could be a bit better to get adoption.
Their are multiple different way u can configure certbot to verify.
Sigh, yeah I know that and that’s not the point I was making but sure.
emails
Needs a [sic] in there.
???
Literally this is how I know if something is wrong
Oh no, the free service is going to make you put a reminder on your calendar.
I think uptime Kuma can be configured to look for expiring certs
I actually think it’s set by default. If there’s a cert it gives you the expiration.
It’s twoo, it’s twoo
