• TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      Likely yes, but everyone has a right to a trial by a jury of their peers and, who knows?

      Political discourse is really poor in this country and they need all 12 to convict.

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      18 hours ago

      I don’t really understand lemmy’s derision for this opinion.

      It’s the obvious outcome. Luigi might be a hero but he’s going to jail.

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        I think the random spike in interaction specifically to downvote opinions, counter to wannabe revolutionary fuel, are suspicious af.

        TBH these luigi posts might just be a bunch of Tankies trying to convince us to start violence in the streets.

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          When folks are dying so oligarchs can make billions, there’s already violence.

          But folks lionizing Luigi is what bothers you?

          Tbh, I had to look at your post history to be sure you weren’t a propaganda bot.

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            Luigi has not had, will never have, any impact on that system because instead of actually trying to change that system he threw his life, and his ivy league rich boy education, away over petty emotions.

            But people, probably Tankies tbh, are cheering for more people to waste more lives and bullets and have no real impact.

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              We have a 40-hour work week because unions literally fought for it. I’d guess most people don’t want more violence but working through the system was pretty impossible even before fascists took complete control last month.

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                After a peaceful protest and hardlines negotions between GM and the United Auto Workers in 1937, legislators passed the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938. Many accredit the achievment to labor secretary Francis Perkins.

                Guess what? None of that shit that Luigi pulled will ever have any such impact, if anything it will likely turn people away from movements that idolize him.

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                  You don’t think the peaceful protests were backed by the threat of union violence that had been regular up until the New Deal?

                  The media tried so hard to make people hate Luigi in December and it didn’t work because everyone knows insurance companies murder for profit. Voting hasn’t helped, the media is owned by oligarchs, most social media is too, and if you protest you either get ignored or beaten up by the cops.

                  It’s not my first choice of action even now, but probably-Luigi killed a guy who was otherwise untouchable and the oligarchs flipped their shit. Abraham Lincoln’s death gimped Reconstruction, MLK’s death hurt the civil rights movement (and spurred nationwide riots causing passage of another civil rights act), Panthers leadership hurt their organization too.

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                    If violence was so effective why did nothing change until the peaceful protest and union negotiations?

                    It’s almost like getting people to actually engage in political discussions is more effective than hitting everything you don’t like with a club. Who would have thunk it?

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      This guy is going to spend decades in prison unless he starts running for president.

      People are advertising jury nullification, but that won’t clear him for the same reason that a McDonald’s employee would tell the cops where to find him.

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      My fear is he’s going to be used to instigate the social unrest needed for project 2025 to reach it’s goal of suspension of habeus corpus by June 30th. That’s end game and the way they’re concentrating messaging against the judicial branch right now means they’re grinding toward the 6 month milestone right on schedule.

      The fact the most famous dems aren’t saying the above is chilling.

      What if we all got too comfy with our rights and values during lockdown and the tree is about to be shaken so violently that we’ll all be thankful for a low wage job in a few years? I guarantee that’s a bipartisan goal.

      Stay peaceful folks, the future demands it.

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        There could be a legitimate conspiracy, for sure, but the Dems aren’t manufacturing this hell. The Dems wanted to tax the rich and socialize healthcare, we’ve just never believed them enough to give them the power.

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          I don’t remember Biden or Harris running on socialized health care so what are you talking about?

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            Biden did expand Medicaid and removed Medical Debt from credit history, and it’s a core DNC platform because they attempted it when we gave them 58 senate seats but the Independents didn’t fall in line so we don’t have it.

            It takes 60 votes.