cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/31800514

“There’s no reason to build this in Guantánamo unless you want to do things you don’t think you could get away with on the U.S. mainland. It’s easy to put tents in Florida. But they’re putting them in Cuba. Ask yourself why.”

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      It’s more likely to be something along Unit 731 than Auschwitz. If we’re going to keep making WW2 comparisons then we should also start with the precursor to those which would be the Shark Island concentration camp in Namibia. It was a concentration camp in Namibia that used the people sent there for slave labor and medical experiments. No gas chambers though but it didn’t really matter with how many people died in the camp anyway.

      Edit: Didn’t Australia do something similar with their detention centre in Nauru? It could also be something more along the lines of that. Still not good but a little less dramatic than immediately assuming it’s on the scale of Auschwitz.

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        I don’t think it will be Auschwitz. Not yet.

        Auschwitz didn’t happen overnight, those things develops over time as the barbarism of fascism accelerates.

        It will be another step on the road to American Auschwitz though. Like current US prisons and concentration camps but worse and more lawless.

        When we eventually learn of the crimes committed there the reaction will be like that to Abu Ghraib, widespread liberal horror and maybe the ritual sacrifice of a low-level scapegoat or two but no fundamental reckoning with the west’s dark rotting core of white supremacy.

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      Maybe? Elon wants to put chips in people’s brains doesn’t he? He’s gonna have tens of thousands of people to medically experiment with like all the monkeys he killed.

      Wasn’t there an interview where some billionaires quizzed a marxist on how to control people in their survival bunkers post-collapse and one of the suggestions one the billionaires had was brain chips? I might be misremembering but someone might know the article I’m talking about.

      EDIT: This is the one I had in mind. Brainchips not mentioned so I misremembered. But I think it still fits.

      Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system and asked: “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the Event?”

      The Event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, unstoppable virus, or Mr Robot hack that takes everything down.

      This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from the angry mobs. But how would they pay the guards once money was worthless? What would stop the guards from choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers – if that technology could be developed in time.

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        How do I secure the viability of my tiny society of post-apocalyptic survivors?

        Do I set up a fair and equitable system that benefits all and promotes the building of community and solidarity?

        Nah… I’ll just put bombs around my armed goons’ necks.