• Alloi@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    whats racist about making fun of someone who asked a child to suck their tongue? are you defending that?

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      15 hours ago

      Seemed like cognitive decline to me when he did that. My grandma started making rape allegations near her end and saying absolutely unhinged sexual nonsense.

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        13 hours ago

        I tend to agree. The man has worked all his live to bring Buddhism closer to the West and this was the single worst thing he did and, very likley, be the one thing that people will remember first.

        After years and years of build relationships and beeing seen as a wildes positive figure. Bit of a shame, what he has to say is valid and important, at least in my opinion. But alas, this was a fucking Desaster for him. And I very much don’t think he’s a pedophile. But in this day and age, with all this hyper sexualisierted westerners, with its complete lack of nuance and social media, it was the worst thing he could have done. China will have done everything to amplify the message to, which for sure doesn’t help.

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          11 hours ago

          The man has worked all his live to bring Buddhism closer to the West

          The man is a CIA stooge who hasn’t done anything productive in his life. He’s the closest you could get to an exiled Marie Antoinette crying about the rights of French people being oppressed after they kicked her out. He wants to bring back feudalism and essentially slavery to Tibet because he would be part of the few nobles reaping all the benefits.

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      1 day ago

      What you are doing here is using the western culture as a benchmark to judge the culture of another region. Not everything is seen trough a sexual lens, that’s just your western mindset doing that.

      You can read about it here, for example.

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        23 hours ago

        So its a common greeting but the tongue sucking was teasing? I hate to see the other ways he teases kids.

        Seriously though, I dont think its racism. Maybe its part of the culture and he’s honest saying there’s no sexual intention but also I think pedophiles have a history of saying this isn’t what it looks like when called out.

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          20 hours ago

          But he didn’t say that. Others have defended him, yes.

          The Dalai Lama hinself apologised for the joke and acknowledged that it must have sounded strange for a western audience.

          The mother of the boy was sitting in true audience and she wasn’t offended by it at all. She defended the Dalai Lama. That in of itself doesn’t mean anything, I have to admit. If you’re in a cult you tend to close your eyes to abuse. But take a closer look at the whole situation:

          Of course, it could be possible that the person whon spent his live reaching out to the West, preaching about love and kindness, decided to make a very puplic statement about his pedophile nature while beeing on a stage surrounded by cameras. Or it was an interaction between two people of a different culture whom had an exchange that, admittedly, sounds strange to Western ears.

          I know what I think is more likley here. Especially because there was nothing else after this. Usually, once a public person is called out for abusive behaviour, there will be some victims who are encouraged to break their silence. In this case? Nothing. Doesn’t that make you question your assumption of him beeing a pedo at least a bit?

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            15 hours ago

            Oblivious/unaware people can defend pedos.

            Glad he apologized cos it was strange.

            Yes, youre right. Her defending him means nothing here.

            Plenty of examples in the past of pedos being pedos while cameras role.

            Yes victims are encouraged to come forward but there’s no obligation. Maybe the victims are still very young or maybe they’re adults or maybe they dont exist, we dont know.

            I won’t make an accusation without knowing more but I hope people who have the power to investigate do it.

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        20 hours ago

        No,but the dalai lama who is tibetan and is a believer in tibetan Buddhism which has child sex slaves for most of its existence is in fact a pedophile.

        This is from someone with an East Asian mindset.

        Sucking children’s tongues or vice versa is weird here in China too.

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          19 hours ago

          Alas, I think most of the world for most of recorded history has had child sex slaves.

          So it’s not really a home run, more just an emotive appeal.

          Have you seen the size of the “torture prison” in Lhasa where the atrocities of the Tibetan government were carried out?

          Additional: Do we know how weird it was seen in Ü-Tsang, if not greater Tibet?