• turnip@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    If your system relies on censoring opposition to it then its probably not very good.

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      2 days ago

      Texas is a country. Now imagine $40 billion a year of various media and disinfo agents repeating that ad nauseum in every place they can literally all the time for nearly 50 years now, all so China can’t take revenge against Japan.

      You’d get annoyed and probably ban it since that’s the easiest way to get your enemy to waste money forever.

      Taipei is an autonomous region, like Xinjiang or Tibet. As long as they don’t grossly violate federal law they get to stay autonomous.

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        This is just pure Chinese state propaganda. Taiwan has been an independent country since 1949.

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        This is the biggest crock of shit ever. Go to Taiwan, experience it for yourself. Go to their museums and talk to their people. You will find a democratic nation with its own values and beliefs. Then take your ignorant ass over to Texas and repeat the same drivel you said here and see what happens.

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            Why do you have to pick one or the other? Can we not recognize that the governments of western nations and the government of China are all evil institutions that cause far more harm than they ever could benefit?

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                21 hours ago

                They also have more concentration erh, I mean, re-education camps. For now, at least.

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                  Depends on whether you think a baseline American prison is a concentration camp.

                  If they are, being instruments of racial and economic genocide, America has nearly 10x as many concentration camps as China with less than a quarter of the population. That’s not really a fair comparison though, given how much China loves centralization, so it’s probably better to talk about the number of people involved.

                  Current estimates place about 1-1.5 million Uyghurs in the camps. “Regular” prisoners account for another 1.7 million. There are currently 1.9 million US prisoners.

                  If we go ahead and give potential credit to all Chinese prisoners as victims of political and ethnic persecution as we have for American prisoners (as ACAB), that still leaves America with a wildly disproportionate prison population per capita. While China openly imprisons political dissidents and ethnic/religious minorities at nearly an equivalent rate to “regular” crimes.

                  So, do you honestly think we currently have fewer concentration camps in a way that matters? What’s it going to look like once we really start going?

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                    I don’t think a baseline American prison is a concentration camp. Gitmo for sure, but a normal prison not really. There’s bias in the system, but you don’t go to jail for just being black/latino/gay/muslim (yet). And AFAIK they don’t steal your organs (again, yet).

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                  Not really. Again according to the UN report nothing China has done is special compared to just normal American prisons. Except fewer uighurs as a percentage of their population were ever imprisoned than just black men as a percentage of the total black population.

                  If what you believe happened in Xinjiang is genocide, America is currently commiting genocide on twice the scale for the past 120 years.

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                    I’d love to see that UN report. Please link it, or at least copy-paste the section comparing the two. I want to see how they sterilize and how they steal organs from Americans.

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            (Yes, but since you clearly have the brain capacity of a toddler I guess I will be more direct.) What do you gain from oppressing Taiwan?

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              How is Texas oppressed by being a state?

              As far as Taipei, it’s not oppressed, the opposite. It’s allowed to control itself under the guidance of the government, as it always has. That’s the definition of an autonomous region.

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                Texas: They aren’t even allowed to get basic healthcare there, or have a gender.

                Taiwan: sure, that’s why literally nobody complains about CCP presence….oh wait. Are you usually in the habit of denying reality and ignoring your own eyes?

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                  For Texas, that’s their choice. They actively choose that, and have the freedom to do so. The US isn’t making them. They aren’t oppressed.

                  As far as Taipei, in any group of people you’ll always have some people complaining about something. There are fewer people pushing for an independent Taiwan than there is pushing for an independent Texas.

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                    Texas is willingly part of the USA.

                    Any real secessionist movement is a farce.

                    Taiwan on the other hand is not part of China, it’s a nation of its own and has as much claim to mainland China as the mainland does to Taiwan.

                    Taiwan being a democracy makes it the easy choice.

                    Tibet should be free too, but unfortunately doesn’t have the backing of Nuclear Powers to keep it so.