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People considering ‘cancelling’ new iPhone order after seeing comparison between older generation::Some have noticed the new iPhone 15 is not as strong or as durable as the older generations of iPhones.
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How does this deserve to be called a news article??
I wish there was a way to block everything from ladbible on here
On sync I’m able to filter out any domain, if that’s an option you’re open to.
That option didn’t seem to remove this post for me, is it working for you if you do it?
. I can only respond from my inbox
Block everything from L4S. This bot is responsible for a good 50% of posts in this community. Who owns it, and what are their motives, what narrative are they trying to push?
You can, depending on which client you’re using.
It’s almost like buying something as soon as it comes out brings the risk that it won’t be in full working order and will still have significant flaws. I’m not sure that that’s exactly news. But the fact that people who are so in love with the iPhone that they are willing to get rid of a perfectly good working iPhone and unnecessarily upgrade for vanity are willing to back out is moderately interesting/telling. I feel like the pre-order group in any market is always surprised when the thing they pre-ordered is not 100% as good as they were promised. But then they will continue to pre-order…
Products should be in full working order upon release. If it is not, it was not ready to be released.
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Why someone keeps chasing the latest gadgets when the old ones work just fine is beyond me.
Nobody is waiting every year for the brand new line of washing machines. Why is there a need to swap phones this frequently?
Good point, I need to check when the new washing machine from LG is being released.
I hope mine connects to Wi-Fi so I can automatically Tik Tok my spin cycles!
Don’t give the idiots ideas
Too late.
Not only have they thought of that, they charge a premium for it. Of course it doesn’t work and the accompanying software is lowest bidder shit that has never been tested in the real world… but what do they care, they have your money.
Thanks for reminding me this is the last LG phone I’ll ever own. :(
I heard the new OS sparkle dream from Venture Industries is a game changer
Back when smartphones actually had big leaps in tech in made sense pre 2015 or so. Now, it’s very small interative changes. It makes no sense.
This is part of the reason. For a decade every year the new devices actually came with new and actually improved features.
However, the other part of the problem is the way these devices were and continue to be marketed. Having a big event to talk every little improvement up and overhype the new devices works to some degree.
I mean the big event used to talk about big new features.
Phones like desktops have become pretty stable. There’s not much in terms of major missing features that anyone has come up with recently.
Maybe they have a six year old phone and are interested in upgrading? I don’t think that many people are doing yearly upgrades nowadays, it’s expensive and pointless.
Not even six. I switched from SE 2020 to 15 pro. The battery was awful. This one should easy last me till the next major change, which is replaceable batteries forced by EU.
This is my situation. My SE 2020 battery is complete shit, and the screen is getting more messed up by the day, with two permanent thin lines going down the center of the phone. I’m a reluctant Apple user, but I think I need to upgrade–and I’ve been eyeing the 15 Pro. I’d like it to last a while. How are you liking it?
So smoooooth compared to the SE. Night and day. I love it. The island is fun to watch (when music is playing the waveform actually reacts to it, it’s not a looped animation :3). Finally I don’t need the lighting cable. I charge the battery to 80% overnight, from 7:30am to now (11:43pm), without charging during the day, now I have 26%. Although that’s after 3h of screen time + AOD. No overheating so far, and idk if the back will break, I’m not planning on bending the phone lol. Can’t say much about the titanium as I’m always wearing a case (shoutout Spigen <3). Face ID is so much better than Touch ID. As long as you don’t wear sunglasses glasses (maybe I need to create another profile). The cameras are fun for a bit but they’re a gimmick after a while for me. The selfie camera is MUCH better and so is low light performance. I don’t like that it’s hard to reach notifications and control centre, but ig that’s the price of a bigger screen. Sorry for jumping from topic to topic lol. Let me know if you have any more questions ;)
Ahh thank you for all the details! You called out all the stuff I care about, I think I’m sold. I’m psyched about the USB C cable, that’s the main reason I haven’t just gone for a 14. I was and still am a little worried about Face ID though, I never had any problems with Touch ID and thought I might miss it. I don’t want my phone to have to look at me before it unlocks…seems weird. Whatever, gotta give up something. Might just switch back to a PIN.
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I’ve got a 12 and will be upgrading to a 15 Pro mainly due to my current phone having a scratch and I really want the USB-C charging option so that I can finally have a single charger type for everything.
Outside of the USB-C change, I don’t see much of a difference between my current 12 and the base 15, hence why I’m going for the 15 Pro. If not for the USB-C, I’d be sticking with my lightly-scratched 12.
Always on portrait mode is a killer feature for me 😄
Why not use an Android phone? All of them have been using USB-C for ages, and they generally have more options for privacy and customisation.
Nah, that’s not an option. I’ve been on iOS since 2009. It’s not really beneficial to move to Android.
Plus I’ve got an Android as my second phone and I’m not a fan of moving to the platform as my main device.
Samsung is silly with their extra store that I can’t remove, I don’t find that the same apps are as polished as their iOS counterparts, I don’t like the way Android does app-switching, I don’t like that there are some apps like Facebook that can be disabled, but not actually removed from the phone, and on my previous phone (moved from an S8 to an S10e) I repeatedly received Samsung ads about newer devices being available. I dislike that the apps themselves are constantly running in the background and that I feel like I have to be conscious of my RAM usage or mindfully close out apps. On iOS, I can have 2 apps or 200 running with no difference in how the phone runs.
There’s also a lot of work necessary to remove things that I don’t like on Android, like removing their extra “gaming overlay” that’s entirely unnecessary, and then there’s general things that I don’t like such as not having a “tap to top” like iOS has.
I do like that Android let’s you sideload apps and choose/customize your launcher, but given that I’ve never really taken advantage of things like extra Home Screens on iOS and the only apps I sideload are emulators, those aren’t game changers for me. I’ve also got an Apple Watch and iPad and things all work best when they’re all within the same ecosystem.
As for privacy, between the two, I would rather let Apple harvest and hold my data over Google. I don’t even like to use Google as my main search engine, and when I do, I’ve got on my VPN and I’m signed out of any account. Apple is selling the info as well, but their money-maker is more about hardware and less about data collection.
I get why some folks may prefer Android to Apple and even make the switch, but I’m not one of them.
Might I suggest your next Android phone be a Pixel so you can avoid having that bloat to begin with? I only buy pure android devices as my primary phone so don’t need to deal with the crap preloaded and locked down. Not suggesting moving to Android as your primary due what you mentioned but there is a night and day difference between pre installed bloadware phones from 3rd parties and pure Android OS ones from Google. Pixel 8 will come with 7 years of OS updates too; Just my 2 cents.
I have no idea how Samsung is rated so high. It’s just a bloated mess.
Couldn’t agree more.
I agree default Android is only slightly better than iOS, I would recommend a custom Android ROM like GrapheneOS or CalyxOS so no one gets your data, neither Apple nor Google, and you can fully customise the device, including getting root access and removing/sandboxing system apps.
Updated from iPhone X to 14pro.
Even then why have yearly releases if a phone release can last 2 years easily, but no they need the newest possible tech that only scales in increments.
Because with almost billion iPhone users you could still have several million sales even if your entire customer base for your new phone are upgrading from old phones?
Or in short; it’s profitable enough to keep doing that.
Though we’ve clearly gotten to a point where twice-yearly releases aren’t worth it.
True, but with a two year release people would just take that phone instead of the newly released one.
If year to year sales were to not be profitable enough they might do that. As it stands development of a new phone is clearly not cutting into the margins enough to make an annual release not worth it.
When it comes to Android, updates. Especially for some of the cheaper phones where they don’t support updates past the next version of Android.
Which really only matters to people that actually give a shit about updates. A lot of people in Android spaces online seem absolutely flummoxed by this but many people simply do not care or actively dislike “the latest and greatest” updates. They tend to change things people liked, they increasingly break functionality in the name of “security”, and they often come with UI changes people find frustrating.
If the user is comfortable with their device, many would like it to stay that way. And that’s not an invalid feeling.
I used to anticipate Android updates, but ever since 10, I’ve had zero desire to upgrade further. I’m not buying a new phone for the benefit of having my file explorer broken.
Some people will call you stupid for this, because it leaves you vulnerable to exploits that don’t get patched, but whatever.
Pixel 8 comes with 7 years of OS updates. Also pure OS so no preinstalled bloatware. For all Pixel devices so far, with a click of a setting can unlock the boot loader to root and flash custom roms as suggest by user below. IDK why anyone would use anything but Pixel phones for their Android experience.
I would use a custom ROM/root the phone, but I also hate SAF. If you like cuatomisablity, and control over your own device however, it would make no sense to get an iPhone.
For Apple products there is the petty “status symbol” thing. If I share my experience, my father has a mania of buying such stuff only for the sake of imagining that he is on some position where he is like, “Oh I own this and that, you peasants won’t understand.” The macbook he bought many months ago now lies dusted on a shelf because it is practically useless to everyone in the household at the moment. It’s a total waste of money for something no one cares about but him. I do not argue about it as it is a waste of time for me. It’s his dogma and his money. I have a more rational mindset of looking at things with a materialistic approach i.e. analytically measuring an object’s use value rather than its prestige.
Yah, good job I have zero interest in Apple products so I can’t actually tell the difference when they start to brag about their phones!
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
I don’t know how many people do upgrade that frequently tbh.
I mean, anecdotal obviously, but the 15 has been out for a couple of weeks now and I don’t know anyone (IRL) who has one. Most of the people I know are rocking phones that are two or three years old at least at this point. My mum has a 14PM that she’s had a year that replaced her X. My wife has a regular 14, which was a replacement for an 11. Those are the only two people I know that have a 14.
I think it’s fair to say that people as a whole are upgrading less frequently, which is reflected in how much these things cost now, which is part of the reason people are upgrading less frequently…
Usually the camera or other things. I usually upgrade every year because I’m on the upgrade program. Last year added the satellite SOS which meant I didn’t have to worry about no service. That and I took the opportunity to switch to the max because my eye sight got worse. I didn’t bother upgrading this year, I saw no reason. I don’t need USB-c, I use a MagSafe charger and have more lighting cables than usb-c. The feature to locate your friends using the ultra wideband chip is neat but requires your friends have a 15 as well. And I don’t really have a need for the shortcut button.
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Anyone else find it really hard to take articles seriously when they obviously haven’t proofread it at all?
“iPhone q5” etc.
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It does make me wonder which I hate worse, that’s for sure.
Until you realize AI can replicate human error as well. 😜
People who preorder a phone are out of their fucking mind, simple as that.
You have to if you want the device in the next month or so. The model I was looking at slipped to November less than 24 hours after pre-orders started.
You could always go in to the Apple store and buy the current gen…they will have plenty of those :)
The 14 Pro Max? They don’t usually have them in stock in the weeks leading up to a new launch. Carriers often do though.
Carriers won’t let you buy the phone outright though.
Went to buy a phone and got a half hour in before they told me I couldn’t actually buy the phone and instead basically got to rent it from them
I still consider you out of your fucking mind. What you basically said was “But I want it now uwu” as if it makes you sound less crazy.
Idk, I was excited about the tech and decided to preorder it, so I don’t have to wait x months. I might be wrong, but I don’t think Apple has ever made a phone that was unusable, so I trust them.
Seems like an overreaction. I’d you buy from Apple directly, not only can you cancel your pre-order, you can return your phone for a full refund for 14-days
Steel ( including stainless) is up to twice as stiff as titanium - meaning it flexes half as much under load for the same thickness/shape. It’s also almost twice as heavy. To get a rigid material that is also lightweight, you need to look at exotic alloys like beryllium-aluminum, but the trade off I’d often poor toughness (fracture resistance) and difficult manufacture.
Last I checked, these phones are full of glass. And glass is incredibly rigid - far more rigid than steel (and lighter than steel too). Also, glass doesn’t block light or radio waves or magnetic fields… which is the why basically all of modern phones are full of glass.
Anyway, since there’s so much glass, the titanium doesn’t need to be rigid. It just needs to be able to handle an impact reasonably well and look nice. Titanium does both better than steel.
The primary metal in these phones is Aluminium by the way. That metal is very soft and doesn’t look great especially once you’ve dropped the phone. There’s a thin Titanium outer coating somehow bonded to the Aluminium - they have a single piece of metal made of with two completely different metals. Clearly Apple isn’t afraid of making a phone that’s difficult to manufacture.
There’s probably 20x more aluminium than titanium in the phone. Aluminium is very light… and it’s drawback (scratches/dents easily) is eliminated by the 1mm of titanium bonded to it.
The thin glass substrates do add some rigidity, but the more rigid a frame the less stress is borne by the glass under impact. I would not be surprised to find the frame is mostly Al. It’s light, and strong - common, properly tempered alloys are as strong (yield, not ult) or stronger than stainless. Of course the 1/3 density comes with just 1/3 stiffness. No free lunches.
The kind of people who will buy this phone when last year’s one is perfectly fine still, are not the kind of people who will cancel when they find out it’s not worth the upgrade cost.
They’re all about the latest fad, that’s all.
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I like iPhones but titanium does seem like an odd choice. Sure it looks nice but who daily drives a $1000 phone without having it wrapped in a case anyway? Feels like a sales tactic.
The titanium was added to make it more lightweight vs stainless steel. It’s more durable for its weight but the phones seem to be less durable overall.
I mean, a lot of people. I have a pixel fold I use naked, and when I had iPhones I never used a case. I paid a lot for the phone, I’m not gonna cover it in a piece of tpu. They also just make phones even more unwieldy than they already are. If you have kids I get it I guess.
I’ve been using sleeves/pouches since the Nexus 5 as I really prefer using a naked phone. I really liked them, protection in the pocket and also a clean phone as it’s cleaned every time you put it in and out of the sleeve.
I’ve gotten clumsy though over the years so I think for my next phone I’ll have to get a proper case. I’ll hate it, but it’s better than a damaged phone 😢
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If you have an iPhone, just get AppleCare. Even if you smash the hell out of it you can get it replaced for $99.
Run it without a case. Smash it up, replace it when it’s unusable to you.
The weight difference is pretty wild in hand.
