Just ignore the existence of terrorist group that keeps stabbing citizens and setting off bombs. Pretend that Xinjiang is not an automous zone with its own governance. Condemn China for using prison labor even though the US has the largest prison labor population in the world. Get mad because the belt and road initiative is improving a region cut off from resources for so long. Brain broken Western media.
Condemn China for using prison labor even though the US has the largest prison labor population in the world
You genocide deniers are the only ones who think this is an either-or situation.
Most people who are even just inclined to the left condemn both, as should you, but you clearly don’t give a shit about defending oppressed people, unless you can use them as a debate tool to help you lick other oppressor boot.
So despite what you like to tell yourself, you have no moral high ground to be judging others from, genocide denying bootlicker.
It’s not whataboutism, ya dingus. Prison labor is simply a common part of most countries. I’m simply stating that there’s no difference between “work camps” and “prison labor.” There’s also no difference between “reeducation” and “rehabilitation” or “forced labor” and “prison labor programs.”
The only response dumb tankies like you deserve is that if you say anything bad about Winnie in China, you’ll get literally disappeared, tortured, “reprogrammed” or killed.
On the other hand I can say Biden is garbage, Trudeau is a fanny and Sunak is a cockwomble. Nothing bad happens to me, see?
You are an idiot if you’re batting for imperialist authoritarians.
People protest in China all the time. They talk shit about the government too. This notion of “freedom” you have is a veil of capitalist propaganda intended to keep you working until you die. Don’t worry, I’m firmly opposed to the biggest authoritarian nation in the world, the United States.
Do what? Talk shit about the Chinese government? Okay. Xi Jinping is getting lost in this ongoing propaganda war with America. His dumb ass is fueling the fire instead of just ignoring the constant poking and prodding. If China just keeps up with the belt and road they’ll win the economic war with the West. But if they keep bickering over Taiwan and maritime borders in the South China Sea, they’re gonna crumble like the USSR.
The “ethnic group” in question are arrested because they’re associated with Turkistan Movement. A terrorist organization that believes Xinjiang belongs to Turkistan. While members of this terrorist organization are Uygher Muslims, they also attack Uygher Muslims and are arrested by Xinjiang police, which employ Uygher Muslims. Half of the region is Uygher and they’re trying to handle a terrorist situation.
It’s a percentage of the total population. That’s genocide not justice. When the state rounds up roughly 10% of a population it isn’t confronting terrorism it’s being imperialistic.
The fact that Turkic people don’t want to be part of a Chinese state shouldn’t be a surprise given China’s imperialistic tendencies.
If 10% of the population wants to leave and 90% wants to stay, how is that imperialism? The Taliban are a small portion of the population, so they deserve to control everyone else in the country? Listen to your own logic.
Your logic is also based on a dumb idea. There’s 683 prisons in China, 380 of them are in Xinjiang. If over half of the prisons in all of China are in Xinjiang, then it’s really obvious that there’s going to be a large prison population in Xinjiang.
In the US there’s 1,677 prisons and 1.2 million inmates. The state with the most prisons is Texas with 313. China has 1.7 million inmates and more than half of them are in a region twice the size of Texas and roughly the same population. So if a country with 1.4 billion people keeps 55% the 1.7 million inmates they have in one single region with 25 million people, it stands to reason that a large portion of that regions population will be prisoners. The US just spreads out its prison population more as it doesn’t have a giant desert to put them all in.
10% didn’t want to leave that’s the number the Chinese rounded up into concentration camps to “reeducate” aka torture them.
The fact is China has so many prisons there because they have a lot of Uighur in concentration camps. That’s the issue we are discussing not the non-Uighur Chinese prisoners that are also sent there. RQ
Your whataboutism is a bullshit dodge. The fact that America has issues with imprisoning has nothing to do with the Chinese Communist Party’s racist imperialist genocide of the Uighur.
It’s not whataboutism, it’s a comparison of data between one super power and another. So, if China has 1.7 million inmates, than that means roughly 1 million are Uyghers, since that’s around 55% of the Chinese prison population. Which means if you subtract the Uyghers in prison from the rest of the inmate population is the other 700,000 non-Uygher inmates. This means that you are too accept that China, a country of 1.4 billion people, only has 700,000 prisoners not related to the genocide. So you’re saying, if it weren’t for this Uygher genocide, China, with 1.4 billion people, only has a 700,000 person inmate population? Just for comparison, remember that the US has 332 million people and 1.2 million inmates. That’s 1 in 2000 people in China are in prisons (when adjusted for the genocide) in comparison to the 1 in 276 Americans in prison. Does that sound right to you?
A country with 1.4 billion people and a 1.7 million inmates population means every 1 in 823 people are in prison. A reasonable number that does not reflect the existence of a massive genocide or a huge labor camp population. To compare this data to a real genocide, Nazi Germany had roughly 70 million citizens and 1.65 million prisoners, which brings the prison population to 1 in 42. The statistics just don’t match up to a population being genocided.
That all being said, where’s any legitimate photo evidence? There’s pictures of people protesting waving flags for Turkistan. Sure. I’m not arguing that some of the people want to be part of Turkistan. There’s pictures of people being arrested. Yes. All wearing the colors of Turkistan. Likely Turkistan Movement agitators, since agitators like wearing uniforms. And you can find people holding up signs, in English for some reason. No signs with mandarin on them confusingly enough. Just signs in English. I feel like it would be just as suspicious if we saw a bunch of protesters in front of the white house with signs in Mandarin.
Every bit of information you’ve provided is based purely on rhetoric and assumptions. The US is just butthurt because the belt and road initiative is actually working by bringing tourism into Xinjiang and it’s going to expose the lack of a genocide while stabilizing the region’s economy.
You’re right! We need to do something about all those terrorists lining the streets of Xinjiang. We all must band together to rid the world of this vile, evil scourge called the CCP!
Just ignore the existence of terrorist group that keeps stabbing citizens and setting off bombs. Pretend that Xinjiang is not an automous zone with its own governance. Condemn China for using prison labor even though the US has the largest prison labor population in the world. Get mad because the belt and road initiative is improving a region cut off from resources for so long. Brain broken Western media.
TIL two wrongs make a right.
Only the most brain dead of Americans won’t admit our gulag system…
Hard to find a mainland Chinese or even atankie to admit that their “labor” camps
The mainland Chinese who exist under strict censorship you mean? Who could face consequences for their speech because they live in China?
I see. So things only exist if people admit they exist.
You genocide deniers are the only ones who think this is an either-or situation.
Most people who are even just inclined to the left condemn both, as should you, but you clearly don’t give a shit about defending oppressed people, unless you can use them as a debate tool to help you lick other oppressor boot.
So despite what you like to tell yourself, you have no moral high ground to be judging others from, genocide denying bootlicker.
More whataboutism from yet another whiny ignorant tankie. Cry more
It’s not whataboutism, ya dingus. Prison labor is simply a common part of most countries. I’m simply stating that there’s no difference between “work camps” and “prison labor.” There’s also no difference between “reeducation” and “rehabilitation” or “forced labor” and “prison labor programs.”
The only response dumb tankies like you deserve is that if you say anything bad about Winnie in China, you’ll get literally disappeared, tortured, “reprogrammed” or killed.
On the other hand I can say Biden is garbage, Trudeau is a fanny and Sunak is a cockwomble. Nothing bad happens to me, see?
You are an idiot if you’re batting for imperialist authoritarians.
People protest in China all the time. They talk shit about the government too. This notion of “freedom” you have is a veil of capitalist propaganda intended to keep you working until you die. Don’t worry, I’m firmly opposed to the biggest authoritarian nation in the world, the United States.
Do it then 👀👀
Do what? Talk shit about the Chinese government? Okay. Xi Jinping is getting lost in this ongoing propaganda war with America. His dumb ass is fueling the fire instead of just ignoring the constant poking and prodding. If China just keeps up with the belt and road they’ll win the economic war with the West. But if they keep bickering over Taiwan and maritime borders in the South China Sea, they’re gonna crumble like the USSR.
So, are these “Western media” in the room with us right now?
Like you are pretending that imprisoning a substantial portion of an ethnic group isn’t just racist genocide?
The “ethnic group” in question are arrested because they’re associated with Turkistan Movement. A terrorist organization that believes Xinjiang belongs to Turkistan. While members of this terrorist organization are Uygher Muslims, they also attack Uygher Muslims and are arrested by Xinjiang police, which employ Uygher Muslims. Half of the region is Uygher and they’re trying to handle a terrorist situation.
It’s a percentage of the total population. That’s genocide not justice. When the state rounds up roughly 10% of a population it isn’t confronting terrorism it’s being imperialistic.
The fact that Turkic people don’t want to be part of a Chinese state shouldn’t be a surprise given China’s imperialistic tendencies.
If 10% of the population wants to leave and 90% wants to stay, how is that imperialism? The Taliban are a small portion of the population, so they deserve to control everyone else in the country? Listen to your own logic.
Your logic is also based on a dumb idea. There’s 683 prisons in China, 380 of them are in Xinjiang. If over half of the prisons in all of China are in Xinjiang, then it’s really obvious that there’s going to be a large prison population in Xinjiang.
In the US there’s 1,677 prisons and 1.2 million inmates. The state with the most prisons is Texas with 313. China has 1.7 million inmates and more than half of them are in a region twice the size of Texas and roughly the same population. So if a country with 1.4 billion people keeps 55% the 1.7 million inmates they have in one single region with 25 million people, it stands to reason that a large portion of that regions population will be prisoners. The US just spreads out its prison population more as it doesn’t have a giant desert to put them all in.
10% didn’t want to leave that’s the number the Chinese rounded up into concentration camps to “reeducate” aka torture them.
The fact is China has so many prisons there because they have a lot of Uighur in concentration camps. That’s the issue we are discussing not the non-Uighur Chinese prisoners that are also sent there. RQ
Your whataboutism is a bullshit dodge. The fact that America has issues with imprisoning has nothing to do with the Chinese Communist Party’s racist imperialist genocide of the Uighur.
It’s not whataboutism, it’s a comparison of data between one super power and another. So, if China has 1.7 million inmates, than that means roughly 1 million are Uyghers, since that’s around 55% of the Chinese prison population. Which means if you subtract the Uyghers in prison from the rest of the inmate population is the other 700,000 non-Uygher inmates. This means that you are too accept that China, a country of 1.4 billion people, only has 700,000 prisoners not related to the genocide. So you’re saying, if it weren’t for this Uygher genocide, China, with 1.4 billion people, only has a 700,000 person inmate population? Just for comparison, remember that the US has 332 million people and 1.2 million inmates. That’s 1 in 2000 people in China are in prisons (when adjusted for the genocide) in comparison to the 1 in 276 Americans in prison. Does that sound right to you?
A country with 1.4 billion people and a 1.7 million inmates population means every 1 in 823 people are in prison. A reasonable number that does not reflect the existence of a massive genocide or a huge labor camp population. To compare this data to a real genocide, Nazi Germany had roughly 70 million citizens and 1.65 million prisoners, which brings the prison population to 1 in 42. The statistics just don’t match up to a population being genocided.
That all being said, where’s any legitimate photo evidence? There’s pictures of people protesting waving flags for Turkistan. Sure. I’m not arguing that some of the people want to be part of Turkistan. There’s pictures of people being arrested. Yes. All wearing the colors of Turkistan. Likely Turkistan Movement agitators, since agitators like wearing uniforms. And you can find people holding up signs, in English for some reason. No signs with mandarin on them confusingly enough. Just signs in English. I feel like it would be just as suspicious if we saw a bunch of protesters in front of the white house with signs in Mandarin.
Every bit of information you’ve provided is based purely on rhetoric and assumptions. The US is just butthurt because the belt and road initiative is actually working by bringing tourism into Xinjiang and it’s going to expose the lack of a genocide while stabilizing the region’s economy.
Tankie or CCP bootlicker?
Is that not the same thing?
You’re right! We need to do something about all those terrorists lining the streets of Xinjiang. We all must band together to rid the world of this vile, evil scourge called the CCP!
They’ll be lined up against the wall soon enough.
But no one is ignoring the existence of China?
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