A law under consideration by the German parliament would mean that people who have committed anti-Semitic acts can never be granted citizenship, German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said on Wednesday.

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    8 months ago

    It’s neither of those things, and it’s really racist of you to say.

    20% of Israel is made up of non-jewish Arabs and they have full citizenship. Also, fun fact, not all Jews are white.

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      Why would say it’s racist when being jewish is a religion? Also just because they’re not particularly white doesn’t mean that White supremacy can be inspired or want to support ideologies like apartheid states. Especially the people they’re targeting happen to be a group of people white supremacists would deem as “unpure”?

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        Because there’s a bunch of tribes including the majority of modern Israeli jews who are native to the Middle East for centuries.

        Arabs and Hebrewd are both Semitic (as in native to the area) and both groups look the same. There’s like half a dozen sub groups plus others that are welcome in Israel and are full citizens and aren’t jews.

        It’s a sectarian conflict. Foreigners injecting racist whiteness into it is ignorant of the situation actually in the region.

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        Especially the people they’re targeting happen to be a group of people white supremacists would deem as “unpure”

        They’re targeting Jews?

        Like you see how fucking silly this whole diatribe is, right? You’ve got nothing to back your ethnostate claim up, nothing to back your apartheid state up, and Nazis do not typically care for Jews.

        This conversation is just dumb man.

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      8 months ago

      So, you’re just going to ignore the Israeli attempt at committing genocide against the Palestinians?

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        No I don’t think there are credible claims of genocide whatsoever.

        If Israel was intent on genocide, they could easily accomplish that. They are most assuredly not outgunned.

        If they wanted to displace Palestinians permanently, they could absolutely do that. No nearby nation would commit serious forces to stop them.

        It is quite obvious that, though terrible civilian losses are occurring, Israel is trying hard to mitigate them. Civilian losses occur in urban fighting. Moving the population that they can to the south is part of minimization of those losses.

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          They have displaced Palestinians permanently, upto now anyway. The Zionists ran them decades ago, how has Israel expanded if not for displacing people.

          You haven’t found evidence of a genocide…is the bombing of refugee camps in the city they are sieging not strong enough evidence for you? Do you need gas showers and a pile of shoes?

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            They have displaced Palestinians permanently, upto now anyway. The Zionists ran them decades ago, how has Israel expanded if not for displacing people

            This is just flatly inaccurate.

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              Given Israel didn’t exist before then it is absolutely undeniably true. It is also true that they drove Palestinians out of their homes and Israel’s map has grown ever since it has been established, up to last month when it’s own PM showed a map encompassing land currently not a part of Israel.

              Tell me please how any of this is untrue.

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      None of the people pushing the aparteid ethnostate angle are from the area…the settler shit is bad but like a lot of Israelis agree they are bad and should go. Cops are Bastards.

      Explain it’s a sectarian thing based as much on politics (who won a civil war our grandparents generation fought) at this point and they just don’t care.

      Like there’s been very public attempts to remove the far right government members. No one remembers the entire country including the air force striking when Bibi tried to fuck with the judiciary prosecuting his crimes earlier this year. The president (its usually mostly ceremonial) is the leader of the Socialist Labor party.

      Bibi is at historic low popularity, 8-9/10 Israelis (including the large Arab citizen Pop) want him gone.

      Gaza is fucked now because the Palestinian nationalist movement went wild and militant after Yaser Arafat died. Dude was also massively corrupt and hurt his people for his own personal enrichment.

      (also every time someone pops off about Zionism and the Ashkenazi tribe immigrating to the region in the 1800s I have to consider whether to tell them like 69% of jews in Israel literally aren’t European zionists under their own definition. Around 900k native to region for centuries jews moved to Israel shortly after it came into existence when they got expelled from the surrounding countries in a nationalistic fervor that spurred a ton of extremely bad shit.)