• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Yeah, and I would argue the Nazis don’t own the swastika. I’m not going to tell Buddhist and Hindu temples to take down their symbol because someone misappropriated it. Just like the IRA, Hamas has a militant wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, and a political wing that I’ll make a rough comparison to Sinn Fein which has absolutely been a part of Northern and the Republic of Ireland government.

    Also, that election that ended up with Hamas in power was like 18 years ago which also happens to be the median age in Gaza. The majority of people in Gaza have never voted for Hamas.

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        8 months ago

        There is no reason to wave a Palestinia flag at all. Just use signs Calling for restraint and help for the civilians.

        No, the point in waving a Palestinian flag is to support the recognition of an independent Palestinian state. You can support that without supporting the terrorists that appropriated it.

        Personally, I’d like to show up with both an Israeli and Palestinian flag, but I’m worried I’d just be jumped by the extremists on either side. I think a two-state solution must be the direction we go, not just “restraint and help for civilians.” Both Israel and Palestine must be independent, but getting there is an incredibly difficult thing that may not be possible without serious concessions from both sides, which isn’t likely to happen with the current leadership on both sides.

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            8 months ago

            I think it is possible. Fatah seem willing to play ball, so the ball is largely in Israel’s court now. But if Israel keeps responding to Palestinian extremism by killing regular citizens, it’s not going to happen. This war has drastically delayed any potential for a two state solution, so it could be decades before either side is willing to come to the table again.

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                Idk, I’m not a general. Maybe their strategy is their best option.

                But that’s irrelevant. What matters is that people on the ground are dying and they blame Israel. Whatever meager trust that may have existed is absolutely gone. So a two state solution isn’t going to work because people in Gaza won’t want to come to the table because they won’t trust Israel.

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                    8 months ago

                    Sure. They have an urgency to eliminate Hamas, and they’re unlikely to agree to any kind of agreement that doesn’t involve Hamas leadership being removed, and I doubt the people of Gaza have any kind of ability or will to deliver them to the Israeli military.

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        8 months ago

        As long as Palestinia is a thing, Hamas is as well

        The fact that both the flag and the movement for Palestinian statehood predate Hamas significantly is evidence your claim holds little water.