• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    I like how every modern Star Trek show just ignores the silly idea that everyone has given up swearing in the 23rd and 24th century.

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      Most trek shows were on primetime network television. Once they went to streaming, the swearing came back. 

      Although, even during the primetime network era, we got plenty of alien swearwords, mostly in Klingon. One or two in Romulan.

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        Yeah, but that was said in a movie where they could potentially have sweared as much as they wanted to. Or at least acknowledged that ‘dumbass’ wouldn’t be some shocking thing to a guy from the future.

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          True, however, we did get Data blurting out, “Oh, shit!” when Troi crashed the Enterprise saucer section into Veridian III in Star Trek: Generations.

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          Yeah, it’s like the transporters. They were originally made due to the limitations of making a TV show (budget didn’t allow a landing sequence every episode) but they’ve become an established part of the universe now.

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          SNW is getting better with its sense of humor.

          Now, PIC… apparently, the 25th century is the century of the potty mouth! It’s old man Picard and old man Riker dropping f-bombs left and right. Even old lady Seven getting in on the fun.

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          My favorite instance of swearing is in one of the TNG movies (can’t remember which one cuz it’s been forever) when the Enterprise is going down and Data looks up at the viewscreen and the land is coming up fast and he just shouts “Oh shiiiiiit!”

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        I like the old shows more because everyone acts appropriately to their rank and station. In the new shows a captain can go like “fuck this ima go punch someone and act super emotional and irrational” because that’s what a star fleet captain or anyone star fleet would actually do.

        Right. And nobody cares because he’s the best man for the job for some reason.

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          I also miss professionals exploring space, solving problems with science and diplomacy, engaged in intriguing stories that explored the complex moral and ethical issues of the day instead of just blowing shit up all the time and with some superficial lip-service pandering to certain social issues just to appease fans but without much more lasting presence than mere tokenism and self back-patting for the effort.

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            Maybe that’s why i like voyager. Professionals trown into a hard situation. Although the maki were basically star fleet by episode 3.

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              DSC: you want trans people to be seen in Trek? How about we make the only trans character a fucking ghost so they’re only visible to the only enby person in the galaxy, further isolating them both! How’s that for ‘being seen’? And, of course, because they’re both LGBTQ characters, they have to be in a tortured relationship. Sigh

              The queer characters in that show were written as queer first and people second, resulting in them just coming off as token caricatures rather than solid characters that feel like real people.

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      You can hear O’Brien cuss up a storm under his breath if you turn your volume up really loud

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      The lack of swearing wasn’t originally part of the “utopian ideal”, it was in fact censorship from the broadcasters.

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        Yeah, you’ve kinda just gotta suspend your disbelief. I’m going back and watching House for the first time since it ended, and it is RIDICULOUS how much these characters don’t swear at each other.