has anyone tried tianeptine for anxiety/depression? Wikipedia even says it could help with adhd

    • tokOPEnglish
      2·
      7 months ago

      yeah. I’m following what psych said.

      3 pills. breakfast, lunch and dinner no side effects now. a little less anxiety I guess

      • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        7 months ago

        Did he initialky offer it or did you do your research and inquire about it? It feels like the latter situation is more likely

        RemindMe:Week or whatever. You’re in for a roller coaster ride of chronic opioid withdrawl synptoms—if you think your ADHD is bad now…

        • tokOPEnglish
          2·
          7 months ago

          I’ve set up a reminder in 2 weeks

          • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            7 months ago

            How can I do that going forward can you copy and paste the code between a pair of backwards things like these

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        • tokOPEnglish
          2·
          7 months ago

          she offered 1st based on possible side effects I wanted to avoid (other antidepressants I tried like fluoxetine affected my sex life, in a negative way). I hadn’t read anything about it.

          • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            7 months ago

            Ah k. Like, you do you but I suggest you read the wikipedia page on Tianeptine, it has narcotic effect (mu-opioid receptor agonist activity).

            In a sense, it is to endorphins what stimulants are to norepinephrine/dopamine. Also seems very short half-life 3 hours so you’ll be redosing like Whitney on crack.

            • tokOPEnglish
              2·
              7 months ago

              I’ve already read the entire wiki, posts, everything I could find. the issue seems to be the dosages. recreational usage is like 1-10g or more. with such low dosage not sure I’ll feel something even If I stop cold turkey.

              3 pills per day. 12.5mg each. she said to space it out. breakfast, lunch, dinner

              2nd day on 37.5.mg. don’t feel much. maybe a bit less anxiety. she said it takes over a month to feel the effects. huh lol. next consult is in January. not sure what to feel or believe. Just depressed in general lol

              i have the awareness of a potato so… if it’s not an obvious feeling, I’ll just discard it without thinking about it.

              edit: in the past I’ve stopped taking 72mg for a week (after taking it daily for 3 months or something) and felt… a bit of a headache. maybe.

              • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                7 months ago

                It doesn’t matter so much how you subjectively feel or your expectations. Its a physiologicical certainty that once you’re on it long enough (could be as soon as 1-2 weeks of tri-daily usage. And when you’re not using it you’ll be in opioid withdrawal chronically unless you plan to install a permanently connected IV push to your veins or stomach or whatever.

                Its extremely short acting like crack cocaine so you’ll be in discomfort a lot until you push on the bender and keep to music pumpin’ ;)

                Up to you guy, you’ve consulted and been advised. I would appreciate if someone showed me how to set up time-notifications and I’ll set it for 2 weeks and if you could commit to getting us all up to speed, that would be an interesting Lemmy-experiment 👨‍🔬

                • tokOPEnglish
                  2·
                  7 months ago

                  chronical withdrawal? damn. you’re scaring me. a bit. what exactly do you mean?

                  if I stop taking it. 5 months from now, without taking it, will I still feel the withdrawal or something?

                • tokOPEnglish
                  1·
                  6 months ago

                  UPDATE. still alive. don’t feel anything tbh. maybe helps a bit with the Concerta crash. some days I forget to take 1 or 2 out of the 3 daily pills. maybe a bit more anxiety those days? can’t distinguish between anxiety caused by real world problems

                  next consult is January, will probably stop taking it. slowly I imagine to reduce sideffects. or I could try cold turkey. really curious about how’d feel. if anything at all.

  • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    I would avoid it, you don’t need mu-opioid receptor agonists to treat your ADHD. Otherwise heroin addicts would be the most prolific workers among us

    Edit: fax