• WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      a big chunk of the german left is part of the “antideutsch” movement/ideology, whatever you want to call it
      the gist of them is that they “compensate” for the horrors of nazi germany by being against the existence of the german state, and also extremely pro-israel

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          They’re doing the George Michael move where they throw out a banana to compensate for stealing a dollar from the cash register. They think it balances the ledger, but it’s actually doubling the debit

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          Maybe I’m expecting too much from these people, but I’m assuming they don’t actually know anything about Zionism or about the history of the Israeli state and just assume they’re being attacked by evil terrorists with no provocation, just like what the bourgeois media tells them. Even today there is very little actual information about the colonization of Palestine in history books, they usually portray the whole thing as a religious conflict/response to the holocaust. I do think that the Zionists are finally starting to lose control of the narrative though, thanks to social media.

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            I’ve got a 1930 Atlas in my house with the territory clearly marked as Palestine. No Israel to be seen. Weird for an ancient conflict lasting a bazillion years or whatever!

            It even gives demographic statistics. Out of the nearly 1 million people in 1930 living in British Palestine, 800,000 are Muslim and the remaining 200,000 are a mix of Jewish, Christian and other minority groups. Wonder what happened to 80% of the area being muslim! Weird how “a land without a people” had a million people on it!

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      Allowing the common understanding of racism to be reduced to mere form, ie vulgar language and overt discrimination, has been disastrous for the real gains made in the late 20th century.

      We gotta first of all enforce some standards for antifascist movements. As great as it is to build large numbers, it’s meaningless if there is no well defined, unifying ideology. I bet a lot of these “antifa” in Germany would not give a coherent definition of fascist.

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      They have anti-Nazi laws and then pass billion euro funding bills to give heavy weaponry and training to Nazis. Most coherent Westoid nation. Germany is going to have the most convoluted contradictions when the western world goes outright, openly fascist since they have been conditioned to be ashamed of their Nazi past while being proud of their Nazi present.

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      Germans have a long history of analyzing a problem, starting a school of philosophy around the problem, getting too excited about the analysis phase, and making a hobby of critique-for-the-sake-of-it only to immediately go off the rails into self-contradictory navel gazing. Then blame it all on human psychology and find a new movement/philosophy to kill.

      EDIT: On immediate second thought, this is the entire world of Western European academia. God we suck.

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    Take a look at those pictures, every single one of them are white.

    These guys are the ‘anti-germans’, while they’re against things like nationalism or nazism, they’re still racialists, hiding away their racist views by masquerading as ‘leftist’, people seem to forget many socdems were racist pieces of shit, and these guys are just the same.

    Fuck anti-germans, and anyone who shills for them.

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    NATO leftists strike again. Whether it’s the “anarchists” of today or the Trotskyists of yesterday, they’re always lurking and pretending to be against the Imperial powers before falling right in line with them.

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    amerikkka “Germany. Apologize for the holocaust.”

    “No.” germany-cool

    amerikkka “Germany, if you apologize, we’ll help fund an ethnostate and settler-colony for European zionists. They will commit genocide against Palestinians and make surplus value flow from the MENA region to Europe.”

    “… I am so so so sorry I did the holocaust. Please believe me.” germany-cool

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    I’d nearly forgotten about that one:
    Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.

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    here in germany we call these people antids, their entire ideology comes down to defending israel and snorting cocaine, mixed with occasionally calling every real leftist a red fash

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      I knew a Portland Antifa girl who moved to Germany and became one of these people. She really had no principles, just liked to start drama in her affinity groups and attack “tankies” all the time. She had an extreme hatred of Russia and China and started crying and physically attacking me one time when I defended Russia’s operation in Ukraine.

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    Apparently some “antifascist” groups in Germany were going to protest Neo Nazis, and some pro-Palestine groups planned on joining the “antifascist” groups but then they ended up cancelling the protest because the pro-Palestine groups were “antisemitic”