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    I don’t know anything about the background.

    “Zionist Milei wins the Argentinian presidency pledging to dollarize the economy and break all relations with Argentina’s main trading partners.”.

    What made people vote for this guy?

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      same as every fascist to date, a deep capitalist crisis and the inefficiency of liberal democracy to keep it’s word.

      in short, argetina took some big ass loans to imf during their military dictatorship, so they are in a permanent crises since that.

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        in short, argetina took some big ass loans to imf during their military dictatorship, so they are in a permanent crises since that.

        Funny enough, Nestor Kirchner did pay most of the loans. And that made the right and the Argentine elite really angry since their entire thing was not doing anything good and when people complained they would say that “Oh, it’s because of the loans we took. We can’t do anything besides neoliberal reforms”.

        Then Macri decided to take more loans, and Alberto decided to actually attempting to pay the loans when they should have told the IMF to go fuck themselfs.

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      Even in a financial sense isn’t that just terrible for 90% of the people there.

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      Latin america is still very anti-communist, so if you run a campaign blaming everything on the leftists, you are going to be popular. It really do be as simple as that, milei just screams stupid incoherent shit and blames the left thats his whole thing.

      There were mass murders of leftists throughtout all latin america and its a wound that it is still bleeding.

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        Plus Macri, the ex president owns a lot of the media literaly so it is quite easy for him to push for an agenda

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    Living in Brazil and seeing this is so sad, my argentinean friends, we already experimented with the far right candidate here and you could see how fucked up everything was here and now you want a taste of the same?

    At least I’m doing well now and I’m going to ask my friends if they want to come here they can crash on my house while they find something.

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    owari da

    In all seriousness, I’m not Argentinian, but I’ve been told that Congress and the Judiciary are not aligned with Milei. Hopefully this means only a term of stagnation and no policy instead of actually deterioration in Argentina.

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      from what I’ve seen, this is just to save face right now that people are tense, after day one they will align and start to say that he is not that bad, we can dialogue and reach a middle ground and etc…

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        True. The main thing they care about is talking without actual actions, and they would rather fascism take over instead of excepting that the centrist systems of liberalism’s version of democracy has failed. They fail to see that sometimes there isn’t a “next time” to rely on for them or their parties to exist let alone run again.

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          is not that think vs act thing, my point is that this so called unaligned never even considered to oppose him or slow him in any way, instead they will legitimate him in every way, because he won “playing by the rules”.

          so they say they won’t support him just out of demagogy, because election still fresh, people are heated.

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    I had a coworker that escaped Argentina and he told me he hopes Milei wins to fix the economy, wtf was going on in his head idk, he just blamed the left for Argentina’s economy. I asked him why did Argentina’s economy change so drastically from the 1900, he just said bad financial decisions from the left, not a mention of the UK, USA, or IMF.

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          The Junta hated Israel

          The Andinia Plan (Spanish: Plan Andinia) is a conspiracy theory that alleged plans to establish a Jewish state in parts of Argentina and Chile. It is partly based on an exaggeration of historical proposals for organized Jewish migration to Argentina in the late 19th and the early 20th century (which, however, did not include plans for a Jewish state there).

          The extreme right-wing had a strong foothold in the Argentine military, mostly through the teachings of Jordán Bruno Genta. In these circles, the Andinia Plan was sometimes assumed to be a fact, even though the Zionist movement had abandoned all plans related to Argentina decades earlier.

          Later versions of the Plan, as published in Argentine Neo-Nazi media in the 1970s, involved an alleged Israel with the intention to conquer parts of Patagonia in Argentina’s south, and declare a Jewish state. This theory did not take hold in mainstream political discourse. Many Israelis tour South America, some of them immediately after their military service as a gap year experience, with Patagonia being a favored destination, this is believed by conspiracy theories to be attempts to carry out the aforementioned Andinia Plan. However, there are strong reasons to doubt the relationship of these facts with the materialization of a plot to make Patagonia a second Israel, of which there is no evidence according to academic studies and the facts.

          During the 1976–1983 dictatorship, some Jewish prisoners of the armed forces, notably Jacobo Timerman, were tortured for information about the Andinia plan, and were asked to provide details regarding the alleged preparations of the Israel Defense Forces for the invasion of Patagonia

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              wtf its on his mind.

              The right doesn’t need to have coherent thoughts, all it does is spread hate and lies, push the blame for social problems onto innocent people, all to distract people from the real problems that the right can’t solve, since that requires real social reforms, which the bourgeoisie is always against, since that means the bourgeoisie would lose its political power.

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    What are the chances we see this guy run his country into the ground. Like that libertarian town in New Hampshire that got overrun with bears but on a national scale? This sounds like a nightmare to live through for any Argentine comrades.

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      Some people compared him with that, lol. I really dont know how much he will be able to do, but he will fuck up as much as he can.

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      Country is already in the ground.

      He is definitely going to attract a lot of private investment so we will see a short term gain in growth but a massive decrease in living standards and material condition for the majority. I really hope this sparks some working class consciousness.

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      He seems geared to be as subservient to Israeli and US interests as humanly possible. If there is one thing the US is good at, it is expediating states that want to prostate themselves like that.

      The only possible obstacle I have heard is that their parlimentary body is pretty opposed to him and could be a roadblock to things like adopting the USD as the national currency.

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      Chances are 100%.

      He wants to privatize all public services. And undergo dedollarization.

      There is no silver living.

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        dedollarization

        dollarisation. dedollarisation is the exact opposite of what he wants to do

        the only silver lining I can think of is the sheer staggering incompetance on display might indicate he is too stupid to succeed at the things he wants to do

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      I cannot understand how common Argentinia s would read this and think: yeah I will benefit massively from this platform. So then I wonder if they read it or not?

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          It’s funny because Trump has delusions of adequacy and genuinely thinks the reasons he got elected is because he was a fascist, and not because his opponent was Hillary. He’s cranking the fascism up to 11 in a desperate attempt to get re-elected and all it’s doing is turning people off. Hell, even his hardcore fascist base turned on him after whining nonstop about losing to a barely-conscious liberal cadaver.

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    he’s basically said he’ll rip out 90% of the government without replacement. I wonder how realistic that is given the powers he now has. can he even do that legally and practically? aif not, I’m sure he’d happily become dictator for life.