• Sybil@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    22
    ·
    7 months ago

    when you buy pork, the person who killed the pig has already been paid.

    • De_Narm@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      20
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      7 months ago

      That’s just useless semantics, neither funny nor clever. The pig you bought may be dead, but the money you pay will be used to raise and kill other pigs.

        • null@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          15
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          It absolutely is. If you eat pork, you indirectly pay for pigs to be slaughtered. Full stop.

          • Sybil@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            14
            ·
            7 months ago

            the pig was slaughtered in the past, before I walked into the store or decided what I’m eating this week. everyone involved was paid before all that, too.

            • tweeks@feddit.nl
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              7 months ago

              They wouldn’t kill, or even raise the pig if they didn’t count on the money down the chain. We indirectly but surely pay for pigs to be created / killed, for our consumption.

              It’s fine if you don’t care about that or accept it as your standards, that’s your choice and fair in our current social context. Just realize the economics behind it.

              • Sybil@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                7
                ·
                7 months ago

                all those people are paid before I even decide whether I’m going to buy bacon.

                • tweeks@feddit.nl
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  7 months ago

                  Yes, but they only pay those people if they expect to make a profit by selling the end product to you. You are one of the people who make it worthwhile to set up a chain of payments like that.

                  If they do not expect you (or other people) to buy the meat, they won’t pay those people to raise / kill the pigs.

                  Whether it’s you this time or someone else doesn’t matter. As long as there is a demand by end consumers they will continue. If no-one buys it they stop, it’s that simple.

                  You’re part of the group that enables this dynamic and your money goes to paying those people. It’s fine if you like meat, just don’t deny this basic logic.

                  • Sybil@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    7 months ago

                    If no-one buys it they stop, it’s that simple.

                    I’m confident that pigs were slaughtered before the invention of money.

                  • Sybil@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    7 months ago

                    If they do not expect you (or other people) to buy the meat, they won’t pay those people to raise / kill the pigs.

                    I’m not responsible for managing other people’s expectations.

            • mellejwz@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              7 months ago

              And with wat money? Your money and everyone else’s that buys meat. Not that it matters though, I’ll keep eating my meat.

    • Floey@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      It’s actually irrelevant whether or not you buy a product made from slave labour, the product is already made! How much product is made is completely independent of how much gets purchased, because that’s how markets work!