Eh, it’s mixed. I’m also considering a bolt, but I do two ~500 mile drives a few times a year to visit family and the bolt adds like 2 hours to the drives. A smaller range Tesla with faster charging only adds like an hour, and would still more than meet my daily driving needs.
I mean, divide that time and hours by the total time and hours you’ll be driving a vehicle. Its like what, maybe 1%? More realistically probably around 1/10th of a percent?
Its a rounding error. I could never consider allowing such an inconsequential amount of time dictate my purchasing choice for something where the vast majority of the miles & hours are going to be commuting, groceries, and pick ups and drop offs. There are far higher priorities to suit the 99% of the needs over the less than 1%. At the difference in cost, I could rent a luxury SUV, electric or gas, for those few trips and still have saved a boat ton of money.
When I’m stuck at a charger for an extra hour with a small child and some cats then yeah it’s a pretty big deal. I’d much rather have a car with 2.5 hours of driving range that charges in 10-15 minutes and make several shorter jaunts than a 4 hour battery that adds 25% more time to every long trip
I find it the opposite. If people want evs to take off, you cant expect people to charge for a long time at “gas stations”. When the threshold for charger saturation is met, cars should have smaller batteries to charge quicker, make cars cheaper, easier to replace, make cars lighter the list goes on.
Large batteries is solely a holdoff because such infrastructure for charging doesnt exist yet.
If you weren’t I wouldnt expect you to understand that what you are addressing is simply a non-issue to EV drivers.
99% of the time, we don’t stop to ‘fill up’. Ever. At all.
We charge at home. When we leave for the day, we’ve got all the charge we need to make it there and back again. Having to take time out of your day to go to a nasty parking lot is something gas-powered plebes think is normal. Not EV owners.
And this is exactly it:
cars should have smaller batteries to charge quicker, make cars cheaper, easier to replace, make cars lighter the list goes on.
You are 1000% wrong here. With more battery, I just finish whatever I need to do for the day, park at home, plug it in like I would an electric tooth brush, and forget about it until the next time I need it. In the rare cases I need to drive more than 250 miles in a day, I’ll find a super charger while I grab lunch.
But those are edge cases, they aren’t 99% of use. If EV’s have 250-300 miles of range, no one is charging on the day-to-day. They’re waiting till the get home and its not even a consideration.
Your thinking is reflective of ICE owner thinking, where ‘filling up’ outside of the home is a requirement and can’t be avoided.
This just isnt the case with an EV. Having to charge outside the home simply isn’t a requirement. Charging overnight is plenty for the next day.
In a household with 2 evs, but the condition is that everyone owns a home in which they have the charging station in place. The line gets murkier when you have situations where youre living in an apartment, condominium and such which might not have it installed as the date to move over starts to inch closer.
Yes most people charge at home, because theyre users who are in position who can make that decision. Its a position that the general populace cannot all hit yet. Its sort of a confirmation bias situation because those who can support it are the ones who can or already made the jump, but the ones who can’t clearly havent due to various reasons.
Yeah the bolt is pretty abysmal. Still very much considering one.
The focus on charging is just so misplaced. Capacity is what matters, and the Bolt is fine in that regard.
Eh, it’s mixed. I’m also considering a bolt, but I do two ~500 mile drives a few times a year to visit family and the bolt adds like 2 hours to the drives. A smaller range Tesla with faster charging only adds like an hour, and would still more than meet my daily driving needs.
I mean, divide that time and hours by the total time and hours you’ll be driving a vehicle. Its like what, maybe 1%? More realistically probably around 1/10th of a percent?
Its a rounding error. I could never consider allowing such an inconsequential amount of time dictate my purchasing choice for something where the vast majority of the miles & hours are going to be commuting, groceries, and pick ups and drop offs. There are far higher priorities to suit the 99% of the needs over the less than 1%. At the difference in cost, I could rent a luxury SUV, electric or gas, for those few trips and still have saved a boat ton of money.
When I’m stuck at a charger for an extra hour with a small child and some cats then yeah it’s a pretty big deal. I’d much rather have a car with 2.5 hours of driving range that charges in 10-15 minutes and make several shorter jaunts than a 4 hour battery that adds 25% more time to every long trip
I find it the opposite. If people want evs to take off, you cant expect people to charge for a long time at “gas stations”. When the threshold for charger saturation is met, cars should have smaller batteries to charge quicker, make cars cheaper, easier to replace, make cars lighter the list goes on.
Large batteries is solely a holdoff because such infrastructure for charging doesnt exist yet.
The analogy doesn’t hold IMO. Most “fill ups” happen overnight while the car is parked at home, no waiting required.
Are you an EV owner?
If you weren’t I wouldnt expect you to understand that what you are addressing is simply a non-issue to EV drivers.
99% of the time, we don’t stop to ‘fill up’. Ever. At all.
We charge at home. When we leave for the day, we’ve got all the charge we need to make it there and back again. Having to take time out of your day to go to a nasty parking lot is something gas-powered plebes think is normal. Not EV owners.
And this is exactly it:
You are 1000% wrong here. With more battery, I just finish whatever I need to do for the day, park at home, plug it in like I would an electric tooth brush, and forget about it until the next time I need it. In the rare cases I need to drive more than 250 miles in a day, I’ll find a super charger while I grab lunch.
But those are edge cases, they aren’t 99% of use. If EV’s have 250-300 miles of range, no one is charging on the day-to-day. They’re waiting till the get home and its not even a consideration.
Your thinking is reflective of ICE owner thinking, where ‘filling up’ outside of the home is a requirement and can’t be avoided.
This just isnt the case with an EV. Having to charge outside the home simply isn’t a requirement. Charging overnight is plenty for the next day.
In a household with 2 evs, but the condition is that everyone owns a home in which they have the charging station in place. The line gets murkier when you have situations where youre living in an apartment, condominium and such which might not have it installed as the date to move over starts to inch closer.
Yes most people charge at home, because theyre users who are in position who can make that decision. Its a position that the general populace cannot all hit yet. Its sort of a confirmation bias situation because those who can support it are the ones who can or already made the jump, but the ones who can’t clearly havent due to various reasons.