Following weeks of silence by women's organizations and international bodies, UN secretary-general says issue needs to be 'vigorously investigated'; Israel's UN envoy: 'When it comes to Israeli women, sexual violence that has been proven and determined by state authorities still needs to be investigated'

Following weeks of silence by women’s organizations and international bodies, UN secretary-general says issue needs to be ‘vigorously investigated’; Israel’s UN envoy: ‘When it comes to Israeli women, sexual violence that has been proven and determined by state authorities still needs to be investigated’

Against the backdrop of widespread anger in Israel over the silence of women’s organizations and international bodies regarding the severe sexual violence used by Hamas terrorists against women in the attack on October 7, UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres announced Thursday that these actions must be thoroughly investigated.

“There are numerous accounts of sexual violence during the abhorrent acts of terror by Hamas on 7 October that must be vigorously investigated and prosecuted,” Guterres wrote on the X platform

  • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    You were the one just saying that investigations during conflict are a thing pointing to Ukraine, and indeed the UN made the same exact type of commitment as the one they’d made in Ukraine here.

    And if you’ve ever bothered to read any of their war crime reports you’d know the types of evidence they rely on which will absolutely still exist after the conflict is over as well as during their parallel reporting.

    In fact, in the 2009 report Israel completely stonewalled the investigation and didn’t participate at all, which led to a rather condemning report regarding Israel. Though a few years later the lead investigator said that information which came to light afterwards regarding Israel’s behavior actually meant the report was erroneously harsh regarding Israel’s conduct and had they participated with the investigation and provided their side of the evidence he’d not have had the report as harshly condemning their actions in the conflict.

    So Israel’s refusing to participate in investigations can and did actually play out the opposite way from what you think. They just as a matter of principle do not participate, much like how the US refuses to be subject to the ICC.

    Maybe the reason it seems we’re going in circles is because you just don’t actually know much about the subject and are resistant to learn because it goes against your preconceived notions, preferring confirmation of your pre-existing beliefs rather than knowledge that causes dissonance when it disagrees with them.

    • generalpotato@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Lol oh jesus. I’m not going to bother entertaining you any further because:

      1. You’re the one that’s made up their mind about painting me as somebody that isn’t aware how war crimes investigations work even though you’ve repeatedly failed to prove whatever you’re trying to prove.

      2. You’ve also failed to address criticism I’ve made about your position by answers such as “that’s just not how it works” or “It will happen when it happens” while failing to provide any evidence backing those claims.

      3. You’re deflecting and jumping point to point just to prove you’re correct.

      4. Lastly, you’re talking out of your ass when you clearly have no have idea how any of this will pan out.

      Later.