• custard_swollower@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      That’s exactly what’s at stake, waiting to be sufficiently litigated. And I hope that creators will win, and that they would be able to tell if they allow richest big tech companies in the world to train on their creations.

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        1 year ago

        Likewise, I hope they don’t win, as that will give the richest tech companies so much more of a stranglehold.

        I doubt there’s any chance of it happening anyway, since there’s a ton of money to be made and and there’s already countries which have rules this will never happen (Like Japan ), so it would mean they become the AI powerhouses

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        1 year ago

        They have already trained on those creations though. Including the newer stuff just released today. How will you claw that back?

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          1 year ago

          If you do stuff, earn from it, and ignore parties and their rights, you are forced to compensate. I guess it will be peanuts though.

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            1 year ago

            They could shut down the previous models that were trained on invalid works. Sucks to suck but that’s what you get when you do everything in your power to skirt the law.

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              1 year ago

              Yeah, and the same thing would happen if e.g. PII or HIPAA related would end up in trained model. The fact that some PII or health data ended up being publicly available, doesn’t mean that automatically you can process or store such data, and train on such data.

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                1 year ago

                This has already been proven by google security researchers who got several of the big “AI” bots to spit out copyrighted materials and PII from their training data sets which the “AI” creators claimed was not stored.

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                  1 year ago

                  It’s not stored as the full material though. If a human that can sing a copyrighted song is not considered to have a recording of the copyrighted song in their brain, so too are LLMs able to spit out their training data without having to store them.

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                    1 year ago

                    How do you know what it’s storing? I certainly don’t, but I know what the security researchers have found that proved it was storing copyrighted material and real people’s private info or PII.