• Margot Robbie@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    It’s annoying sometimes that people just assume that those who don’t work in tech are completely clueless about tech.

    It’s also really funny to mess with people who assumes that.

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      11 months ago

      as someone who works in tech, the number of people who think they know about tech and are actually completely full of shit dramatically outweighs the people who don’t work in tech and do know what they’re talking about. it can take a lot of energy to differentiate the 2 groups

      dunning krueger is at play a lot, because most people use a computer every day and think they know everything about the internet because they know what DNS stands for and typed a command to flush the DNS cache this one time and it worked

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        11 months ago

        This mirrors the experience of anyone who has studied linguistics.

        Because everyone speaks at least one language fluently, they tend to assume that they understand how languages work, while having zero awareness of the fact that people have spent generations studying language and communication at the PhD level and that almost nothing about what we reflexively intuit about language actually holds true.

        And I say this as a purely amateur linguistics nerd who does not claim any real formal expertise in terms of academic credentials.

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        11 months ago

        Yeah, you can’t really fake experience either. I recently joined a group of guys who clearly have had plenty of real world experience in the kinds of things I have, and just talking shop is refreshing. Haven’t had that ability for a long time.

        If someone like her showed up in my team, and she’s able to talk the talk, I wouldn’t need any further validation and it’d be fun to hear the kinds of things she’s worked on.

        Funnily enough, a woman is joining this all-guy group soon and I’m told she’s really good, so I get to do exactly that.

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        11 months ago

        Don’t exhaust yourself, just assume that everyone who thinks they know about tech does. They’ll prove themselves wrong very quickly if necessary and you eliminate the risk of getting owned by a VS model.

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          11 months ago

          except when you waste a crap load of time figuring something out only to realise that the person that says “it can’t be X” didn’t actually know that it was in fact X

          … this is why you don’t argue with ISP support when they tell you to reboot your router: just do it; they don’t know that you’ve done that before you call them, and you telling them that’s not the problem is not going to change anything… it’s not because they don’t believe you specifically, it’s because they just can’t trust that everyone knows what they’re talking about

          the same goes for most IT problems… it saves time in the long run to just assume people don’t know what they’re doing, because problems and systems are both complex and dynamic

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            11 months ago

            Nah, ISP support (and many other support) just have a script they have to go through on every call.

            I agree that rebooting your electronic device will fix a lot of issues.

            But if those from support were actually any good, they would just reboot your router remotely.

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              that kind of reboot doesn’t do everything… turning the power off for 30sec completely discharges the capacitors in the power supply, as well as leaving time for things in the exchange to time out and reset

              it’s a quick way of solving a mountain of issues, both client side and ISP side

              some ISPs do have a script, some have better support than that but rebooting is a good strategy for a huge number of things because IT systems are just so complex

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        11 months ago

        This is true, but also IT is a huge place there is an insane amount to learn. So really you spend an incredible amount of time in the “valley of despair”. Basically anyone who brags about their skills is VERY suspect. This person is an iOS developer, which is a great career, but the title of the article is phrased like she was at least Linus Torvalds. I’m sure she had little say in this, but whilst a reaction like this is never justified I can see why people made fun of it. Also it was clearly written by someone who has no idea what the words mean. Unless I’m mistaken MIPS is a cpu architecture, you can’t program in it. You can write machine code “for” it. So yeah I can see why people assumend these claims were lies.

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          11 months ago

          They assumed these claims were lies because they are sexist.

          I work in tech. I taught programming at university. And guys think I have no idea what I am talking about when I am the person correcting their f*ing babies homework. I had men come into my office asking me when the Sys Admin is back in office.

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            They assumed these claims were lies because they are sexist.

            …which is stupid because you don’t pick MIPS and ObjectiveC if you’re just flexing your hobby skills. From the language choice alone I knew she was a developer.

    • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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      11 months ago

      Tech is a weirdly wide term. Does it only include IT? Engineering? Astrophysics?

      A lot of work is “tech” as in technology related. It is inevitable to be clueless about a lot of technology, even when being the spearhead of development in one specific field.

      Meanwhile you don’t need to tell the guys at the car-shop about programming, but they most likely know more about every non computer part of the car you just brought to them for repairs, because you were clueless about where that weird sound comes from.

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        11 months ago

        Welding pipelines and building houses is tech.

        Tech being used exclusively for electronics and computing is sort of weird, but idk what else to use.

        Calling it the Tron industry would be fun, though.