A student killed his father before gunning down at least 15 others at a Prague university, Czech authorities said, adding the gunman had also been “eliminated”.
There’s one every few years in almost every country.
The difference is it’s not a mass shooting per week… This doesn’t help your argument as much as you think it does.
Edit: also the joke is most developed countries are allowed to own guns to some extent, a total ban is only what your side tells you to keep your support.
I actually wrote “good” first, but then I realized that left way too much to interpretation, and quickly changed it to “permissive”, “liberal” never entered my train of thought.
Here’s your spoonfed quote literally pulled from the article to go with your dipshit comment.
Czech Republic has some of the most liberal gun laws in Europe.
There are more than 800,000 firearms of all categories registered among 300,000 gun permit holders in the country, which has a population of about 10.5 million people, writes Ella Nunn.
It is one of the only nations in the world - and the only one in Europe - that provides the constitutional right to bear arms.
Concealed-carry permits for self-defence can be obtained by Czech citizens without presenting specific reasons and recreational shooting is one of the most popular sports in the country.
I’m sure if you had the patience, literacy, and weren’t currently struggling with your mental capacity to make it this far down my comment to read this much, you’d probably feel a bit like an asshole to try to make this nightmarish story into your opportunity to talk about needing more guns on the street. Alas, I’m currently speaking into the void cuz your head is likely still buried just far enough up your own ass for you to enjoy the smell of your own farts while searching for your next astounding comment. The people you hear crying aren’t the ones you triggered with your unhinged comment, it’s the sound of everyone who cares about you. We’re all really concerned about you and are worried you’d suffocate were it not for how much you laugh at your own heartless comments.
Gun laws in the Czech Republic in many respects differ from those in other European Union member states. The “right to acquire, keep and bear firearms” is explicitly recognized in the first Article of the Firearms Act. At the constitutional level, the Charter of Fundamental Rights and Freedoms includes the “right to defend one’s own life or life of another person also with arms under conditions stipulated by law”.
I really wish we could get actual apples to apples “mass shooting” comparisons. Everything from the site you linked to Wikipedia has been restructured to help make the argument that the US has tons of “mass shootings.”
In this particular case it’s something that happened at 3 in the morning outside of a bar… Gang or not it was probably more drunken brawl where someone pulled a gun and things went bad fast.
That’s pretty different from some person going to a university, a school, a public event, and unloading on anyone they see with intent to inflict as many casualties as possible on someone that they’ve never even spoken a word to … which is what I remember a “mass shooting” meaning up until recently. And that shit doesn’t happen 23 times in a single month. It happens a few times a year which given the size of the US is much more comparable (granted I think still elevated) when compared to European mass shootings.
Quit making bad faith arguments to defend the US, our gun crimes are super preventable.
It’s not bad faith unless it’s actually bad faith. An argument you don’t agree with and you have evidence against isn’t automatically bad faith.
I’d forgotten Sweden in general has such a low murder rate. But I mean, the closest state in terms of population is North Carolina.
In 2021 they had 991 murders of any kind, with 748 of those involving a gun, that’s 243 without a gun. Sweden had 113 murders total. Even if nobody died by a gun, North Carolina had more than double the murders.
The point was comparing apples to oranges “mass shootings” that count any shooting with more than 1-2 people involved in the US vs “mass shootings” via the “traditional” “mass shooting” that involves a random gunman in a public place shooting a crowd or a school … isn’t really a helpful comparison.
If we want to keep diluting that point. Of all of the gun deaths involved in homicide, handguns make up nearly 2/3 of the gun deaths. Nobody in the conversation is talking about doing anything about handguns.
In all of these cases though, you know what Sweden has that the US doesn’t? Universal healthcare… Which probably plays a role.
The US also has states like New Hampshire where with a population of 1.4 million there were 9 murders involving guns in 2021. Hawaii similarly has 1.4 million people and had 1 murder involving a gun in 2021. What’s especially interesting there is New Hampshire has very permissive laws while Hawaii has more restrictive laws.
I’m not saying gun crime isn’t preventable but the conversation about how to prevent it is missing a lot of nuance. The right needs to at least back mental health measures and the police need to make sure they’re enforcing the laws already on the books (which might have prevented the Maine shooting). Having no guns in the country at all would certainly remove the gun crime problem as well but it wouldn’t necessarily remove the murder problem. Mass shootings are a special case of the US violent crime spectrum that may or may not need special treatment.
I just want to stop comparing apples to oranges. If the case is “US mass shootings are out of control and we need an assault weapons ban” make the case without distorting the statistics and inflating them to include conflicts that the average person wouldn’t consider a “mass shooting.”
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That this is an outlier for the Czech Republic does rather point to the fact that the American domestic terrorists are primarily a cultural problem.
And we do love exporting our culture.
There’s one every few years in almost every country.
The difference is it’s not a mass shooting per week… This doesn’t help your argument as much as you think it does.
Edit: also the joke is most developed countries are allowed to own guns to some extent, a total ban is only what your side tells you to keep your support.
You mean per day.
Let’s use SI units. Per second.
Czechia has quite permissive gun laws iirc
You could say liberal gun laws but that would have confused them so I thank you for your word choice
I actually wrote “good” first, but then I realized that left way too much to interpretation, and quickly changed it to “permissive”, “liberal” never entered my train of thought.
Probably not for long.
Damn dude, literally couldn’t google what the gun laws in Czech Republic are.
Well that’s why it’s actually news worthy… in the US it would just be another normal day.
Here’s your spoonfed quote literally pulled from the article to go with your dipshit comment.
I’m sure if you had the patience, literacy, and weren’t currently struggling with your mental capacity to make it this far down my comment to read this much, you’d probably feel a bit like an asshole to try to make this nightmarish story into your opportunity to talk about needing more guns on the street. Alas, I’m currently speaking into the void cuz your head is likely still buried just far enough up your own ass for you to enjoy the smell of your own farts while searching for your next astounding comment. The people you hear crying aren’t the ones you triggered with your unhinged comment, it’s the sound of everyone who cares about you. We’re all really concerned about you and are worried you’d suffocate were it not for how much you laugh at your own heartless comments.
I don’t know why you thought that. They’re not.
Why did you think that?
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting we’ve had 23 mass shootings in the US in December alone.
I really wish we could get actual apples to apples “mass shooting” comparisons. Everything from the site you linked to Wikipedia has been restructured to help make the argument that the US has tons of “mass shootings.”
Take this entry near me from that list you linked https://www.cleveland19.com/2023/12/04/cleveland-police-more-than-dozen-people-shot-several-stabbed-over-weekend/
The 4 people shot, there’s no context as to whether that was random, gang violence, stray bullets in a conflict, etc. This sort of thing almost definitely happens outside of the US, e.g., https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisakim/2021/10/22/swedens-brutal-gang-problem-heres-what-officials-blame-it-on/?sh=6bb1d29fa281
In this particular case it’s something that happened at 3 in the morning outside of a bar… Gang or not it was probably more drunken brawl where someone pulled a gun and things went bad fast.
That’s pretty different from some person going to a university, a school, a public event, and unloading on anyone they see with intent to inflict as many casualties as possible on someone that they’ve never even spoken a word to … which is what I remember a “mass shooting” meaning up until recently. And that shit doesn’t happen 23 times in a single month. It happens a few times a year which given the size of the US is much more comparable (granted I think still elevated) when compared to European mass shootings.
Bro, come on. Sweden has a population of 10.42 million and they had a drop in gun violence from 62 homicides in 2022 to 42 in 2023. https://www.statista.com/chart/30946/annual-number-of-fatal-shootings-in-sweden/
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/10/31/1209683893/how-the-u-s-gun-violence-death-rate-compares-with-the-rest-of-the-world It’s not even a close comparison.
Quit making bad faith arguments to defend the US, our gun crimes are super preventable.
It’s not bad faith unless it’s actually bad faith. An argument you don’t agree with and you have evidence against isn’t automatically bad faith.
I’d forgotten Sweden in general has such a low murder rate. But I mean, the closest state in terms of population is North Carolina.
In 2021 they had 991 murders of any kind, with 748 of those involving a gun, that’s 243 without a gun. Sweden had 113 murders total. Even if nobody died by a gun, North Carolina had more than double the murders.
The point was comparing apples to oranges “mass shootings” that count any shooting with more than 1-2 people involved in the US vs “mass shootings” via the “traditional” “mass shooting” that involves a random gunman in a public place shooting a crowd or a school … isn’t really a helpful comparison.
If we want to keep diluting that point. Of all of the gun deaths involved in homicide, handguns make up nearly 2/3 of the gun deaths. Nobody in the conversation is talking about doing anything about handguns.
In all of these cases though, you know what Sweden has that the US doesn’t? Universal healthcare… Which probably plays a role.
The US also has states like New Hampshire where with a population of 1.4 million there were 9 murders involving guns in 2021. Hawaii similarly has 1.4 million people and had 1 murder involving a gun in 2021. What’s especially interesting there is New Hampshire has very permissive laws while Hawaii has more restrictive laws.
I’m not saying gun crime isn’t preventable but the conversation about how to prevent it is missing a lot of nuance. The right needs to at least back mental health measures and the police need to make sure they’re enforcing the laws already on the books (which might have prevented the Maine shooting). Having no guns in the country at all would certainly remove the gun crime problem as well but it wouldn’t necessarily remove the murder problem. Mass shootings are a special case of the US violent crime spectrum that may or may not need special treatment.
I just want to stop comparing apples to oranges. If the case is “US mass shootings are out of control and we need an assault weapons ban” make the case without distorting the statistics and inflating them to include conflicts that the average person wouldn’t consider a “mass shooting.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate
https://www.statista.com/statistics/301603/murder-involving-firearms-us/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/533917/sweden-number-of-homicides/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/type-gun-us-homicides-ar-15/story?id=78689504
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_Hampshire
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Hawaii
Another uneducated American haha.