• blahsay@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    You’d be better off asking why Hamas started a war they knew they’d lose, why they prolong it in the face of their people suffering.

    Even better maybe ask why you support them? How have they made life better for their people? This situation was completely predictable and completely avoidable.

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      You’re right, it was completely avoidable. Bibi could have followed through on all that intelligence telling him of a pending Hamas attack. Hell, he could have never funded Hamas in the first place, which is why they even have power.

      Completely avoidable.

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        11 months ago

        Pretty sure Hamas was democratically elected but if you need to shift blame back to Israel with some impressive mental gymnastics go right ahead.

        If you could put down your hate for two seconds it’s time to realise Hamas aren’t winning this and dragging this war out is just hurting Palestinians.

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          Calling Hamas “democratically elected” is a huge stretch. Hamas recieved 44.45% of votes in the last election, which was in 2006. They are absolutely not in any way accountable to the people they rule. The average Palestinian has about as much chance of freeing those hostages as I have of breaking people out of Guantanamo.

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      11 months ago

      Or I could ask why they were being financed by Israel. Could I ask that too, couldn’t I?

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        11 months ago

        Thanks for being brave enough to focus on important questions like who funds Hamas.

        Too many people are getting distracted by silly things like humanitarian crises but you’re out here fighting the real fight!

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          Oh yeah, Israeli governments sending tons of cash to Hamas is totally unrelated. That’s why you’d prefer to not talking about it. Not because it breaks the narrative of the poor innocent israel. Right?

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            11 months ago

            Love how you pro-hamas guys will do anything, anything except something that will help the Palestinians.

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              Who is pro-hamas? Hamas never got my money, Israeli money on the other hand… yeah, of that money they’ve got a lot. But do not let facts disturb your ideology ok?

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                11 months ago

                My ideology is that suffering should be minimised. I’d hope we could agree on that.

                At this point be honest - is dragging this war out going to minimise suffering or maximise it?

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                  11 months ago

                  Good question: ask Israeli leaders who mantain an apartheid state, while financing terrorists. Feel free to post their answer.

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                  My ideology is that suffering should be minimised.

                  Is that why you side with the perpetuators of the suffering? Or is it just a coincidence that you treat criticism of Israel’s numerous crimes as pro-Hamas rhetoric?

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                  11 months ago

                  First of all fuck Hamas and Israel both, just to get their dickriders to STFU.

                  So how do you feel about the Ukrainians?

                  Is it all war you want to end or just this particular one?

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                I’m curious though - you think Israel is funding and puppeting Hamas? As an excuse to roll over Gaza?

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                  I think? Major newspapers, including Israeli ones think. From what I’ve read in order to make harder/impossible a path towards a two state solution. Since Israel always aimed at rob all the land and keep the apartheid regime.

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                    Ok so Israel is behind Hamas in your eyes.

                    Cool. Then what’s the simple solution to stopping Israel? Hamas surrenders. Boom, no more excuse for war.

                    So show you’re serious. Call for the Israeli puppet to surrender

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          11 months ago

          … You mean the humanitarian crisis that Israel explicitly and intentionally created, has purpetuates for decades, and refuses to do anything about?

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      11 months ago

      Occupies oppressed People don’t behave rationally. Also, Nyet n yahoo knew all about the attack for most off a Year and ignored the danger because he needed this excuse to try and distract from his corruption. Criticism of the Israel is not support. Oh, and it is very telling that you think the Palestinian “newborns” mentioned are hamas.

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      11 months ago

      Gazans were in an open air prison prior to October. Israel bombed Gaza pretty regularly, and Hamas said that their October attack was in retaliation.

      Hamas explained all this in an interview with the New Yorker. Gazans tried peaceful unarmed protest and were shot by the IDF. They asked the international community for help but the Israeli government labeled it “diplomatic terrorism” and sanctioned Palestinians. What choice did they have left but to fight when nonviolent resistance got nowhere?