• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      Isn’t that a good thing, though? We’re not all being worked to death? (I mean people are in some places, I’m just talking about Lemmy here.)

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        Yeah, as someone who almost died from covid + pneumonia (and my doc thinks also comorbid RSV) from rampant exposure in various residential care facilities, someone who was over-worked, exploited in a toxic work environment, burned out, and then forced out of a job from long-covid…

        People acting like having free time is a bad thing/that it’s admirable having work/productivity consume every waking minute can shut the hell up… That’s not healthy or a good thing. I don’t get how they think it’s bragging to boast about how much of their limited lifespan has been given away to their employer rather than spent on something they have chosen to do out of desire.

        I am proud of the hard work I did and the people I helped as a caseworker for adults with severe mental illness. But if I could go back in time, I would not have been killing myself for all those years. It’s given me a new perspective on life, and I intend not to waste the rest of it.

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          People acting like having free time is a bad thing

          I can’t speak for other nations, but the US has a puritanical hangover we just can’t shake. Work - and only certain kinds of work - are directly tied to morality. The hour you wake up is tied to morality (we aren’t farmers dammit let me sleep until 8 or 9am!)

          It’s very difficult to make meaningful change to things that are intertwined with morality. You have to exert an enormous amount of effort disentangling them before you even get to work. Because you simply can’t convince people to do a thing they inherently think is immoral, at least not nationwide.

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        Isn’t that a good thing, though? We’re not all being worked to death?

        No, it’s not a good thing. You’re making a false dichotomy. Reality should ideally fall somewhere in between.

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            Because people should be productive members of society? Is that a real question?

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              Why should people be productive members of society if they don’t want to be? Do you really think they’ll do a good job if they don’t want to be doing it?

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                Why should people be productive members of society if they don’t want to be?

                Are you actually a toddler? How do you expect society to function if no one puts in the effort to make that happen?

                Do you really think they’ll do a good job if they don’t want to be doing it?

                Nobody wants to do work but ultimately you have to do things for other people so that you can have things done for you.

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                  I do not respond substantively to posts with insults and if there is a second insult, you will be blocked. This is not Reddit and I will not tolerate that behavior.