• ashok36@lemmy.world
    303·
    11 months ago

    I mean, it’s possible to like bands but not buy into their ideologies. I love Propagandhi but don’t agree with all of their positions. Pretending that they don’t have those positions so you never have to interrogate your own positions is the essence of being a poser though.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.netEnglish
      12·
      11 months ago

      I mean, it’s possible to like bands but not buy into their ideologies.

      I would think that’s pretty rare, except from people who absolutely do not pay attention to the lyrics or do not know how to interpret their meaning.

      • Bo7a@lemmy.ca
        13·
        11 months ago

        Propagandhi is actually a good example of a band that has some stances that you may not adhere to, but still find enjoyment in the spirit of the lyrics.

        I can wave the black and red flag with them, while still eating meat and not liking hockey.

        • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.netEnglish
          82·
          11 months ago

          I never really considered veganism a political view… But I do like Morrissey, even though I also like meat. However, I’m not really into Meat is Murder specifically. I don’t agree with the lyrics and it’s not that great musically either 🤷🏻‍♂️

          However, veganism isn’t really a harmful ideology, either. I can disagree with them and still respect them. It’s much harder (for me, impossible) to respect a white supremacist or other harmful/hateful groups. I have heard plenty of country songs that definitely have that kind of views embedded in it. Fuck those bands.

          • Bo7a@lemmy.ca
            5·
            11 months ago

            I should maybe clarify - I don’t find their veganism to be problematic. I just mean that I can sing along to songs like ‘meat is still murder’ without agreeing with that specific bit. But then the song ‘nation states’ comes on and I’m back to walking hand in hand with them waving an anarchy flag.

            [Edit to add:

            I never really considered veganism a political view…

            I don’t necessarily consider it a political view. But it is a moral view, and the places where morals bump up against each other is the political part. To me.]

      • atkion@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        71·
        11 months ago

        I hope not. I really enjoy immersing myself in political spheres I don’t necessarily agree with just to see what makes them tick, it’s really interesting to me and humanizes people I might otherwise hate as a matter of principle. Music turns out to be a really easy way to do this.

        I can’t imagine I’m the only one, though it’s definitely not something I often see online.

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
          5·
          11 months ago

          Yeah and gospel music is a more extreme version of that. The religious elements can make me uncomfortable at times, but fuck if it isn’t good music.

    • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
      63·
      11 months ago

      It’s called cognitive dissonance, when a person holds two conflicting ideas or beliefs. It’s stressful to acknowledge the conflict and change beliefs and behaviours, so people instead do mental gymnastics to justify holding both.