Russian officials confirmed their warship Novocherkassk was damaged by Ukraine — but reports suggest they're downplaying the toll.

  • Russia confirmed a Ukrainian missile attack damaged one of its Black Sea Fleet warships.

  • But Russian officials have said that only one person was killed.

  • Independent Russian media suggests dozens may be dead.

The damage to a Russian warship appears much worse than the Kremlin is willing to acknowledge.

The Russian navy’s landing vessel Novocherkassk — part of its Black Sea Fleet — was hit in a Ukrainian attack on a port in Russian-held Crimea, officials said Tuesday.

While the Kremlin-appointed governor there has said the ship was damaged and one person was killed, video and media reports paint a much-darker picture.

Images of a massive explosion at a dock in Feodosia spread on social media. Reporters and open-source intelligence channels posted photos showing smoldering wreckage at the pier, backing up Ukraine’s claim that long-range missiles triggered a massive explosion that blew up the ship.

Independent Russian media is also questioning the stated death toll.

Astra, a Telegram channel sharing Russian news from independent journalists, reported there were 77 sailors aboard the Novocherkassk at the time of the Ukrainian attack; this class of ship typically has a crew size of about 100.

  • Alxe@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    11 months ago

    Not trying to defend Russia, but the concept of a Pyrrhic Victory has existed for quite some time.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      231·
      11 months ago

      Yeah and it’s been Russian military strategy for nearly as long. Idk if Russia will win, but as it is now both countries will struggle under the weight of the loss of population and resources and immense debt that they’re incurring. For Ukraine it’s obviously worth it, but for Russia, I struggle to see how it’s worth it because even victory will come with an angry edge province and political instability.

      • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        7·
        11 months ago

        You are correct in my opinion. It seems whoever orchestrated that thought it would be the second Crimea, forgot Ukraine had 8 years to prepare (even with a shared soviet corruption problems and cheap traitors) and completely ignored the historical case of their resistance in and post WW2. One magazine even published a postponned article summarizing the achievements of russian warriors, and there were public persons speculating about taking Kiyv in three days. Even if you ignore them normalizing of such an act at all, they were sniffing their farts while planning it and thinking it’d go alright.

        • Mirshe@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          11 months ago

          Mostly because I think Russian high command was telling Putin whatever he wanted to hear. “Yeah boss, sure, we’ll just steamroll into Kyiv, nobody will dare fight back against us…” Keep in mind Russia had tried this EXACT same “rush and decapitate” strategy in Georgia in 2008.

      • ghostdoggtv@lemmy.worldEnglish
        41·
        11 months ago

        Ukraine has oil reserves that Russia has eyes on. There’s the solution to your equation.

      • chitak166@lemmy.worldEnglish
        33·
        11 months ago

        even victory will come with an angry edge province and political instability.

        Victory would mean Russia has killed most of the Ukrainians who would fight back.

      • alienanimals@lemmy.worldEnglish
        101·
        11 months ago

        You’re defending America’s long time enemy because you’ve consumed their propaganda. You’re not an American patriot, you’re a Russian simp.

          • alienanimals@lemmy.worldEnglish
            51·
            11 months ago

            Lol check the ruble’s value over time. Feel free to get back to me if you have any data or rationality to back up your room temp IQ argument.

            • chitak166@lemmy.worldEnglish
              15·
              11 months ago

              I’m going to assume your answer to my question is “no”, you have not considered Ukraine is a sunk cost.

              Tell me you’re a victim of propaganda without telling me you’re a victim of propaganda.

              • alienanimals@lemmy.worldEnglish
                41·
                11 months ago

                You seem to have forgot all the data to support your argument. I’ll respond to your latest unsubstantiated bullshit, but this is the last time:

                The propaganda I consume pushes me to defend America, its allies, and civilian lives.

                The propaganda you consume has you fighting for America’s cold war enemy. The one that has been sowing discord for decades. You’re not a patriot. You’re just a useful idiot for genocidal Russia that can’t even win a war they started against a country 1/10th of their size.

                • chitak166@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  16·
                  11 months ago

                  Why do I need data to know you’re a victim of propaganda?

                  You haven’t even considered Ukraine might be a sunk cost. That alone makes you an irrational person.

                  • alienanimals@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    41·
                    11 months ago

                    You have an irrational belief that you must be correct. How original.

                    Try looking up the Dunning Kruger effect sometime.