• Archmage Azor@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If only there were a few individuals with ridiculous amounts of wealth that we could turn to (whether they want to or not)

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      1 year ago

      How do you imagine that should work? Let’s take Elon as an example. He owns companies that got successful, hence the wealth. It is not cash under his mattress or in the back account, that would be simple to take.

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        Obviously one can tax the companies and they can collect money from revenues or collect money by selling shares to investors.

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    1 year ago

    He said they only need $20 billion to feed everyone … well fuck that daddy bezos want to go to space!

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      20 billion dollar per year? To feed everyone (who is that?) for a year? Wound that be sustainable or would populations explode?

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        40 billion each year to end global hunger by 2030. Everyone is everyone in the whole world. These figures are from the Un food programme’s. Population would not explode, because malthusian economics are for eco fascists. Rich people that have no food insecurity have Less kids, not more. See all of Europe and the US and many other countries as examples. Human population is not the graph about wolves and deer you saw in 10th grade biology.

        https://www.wfpusa.org/articles/how-much-would-it-cost-to-end-world-hunger/

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          We literally tried this in the 90s, when we had tons of money and were in a good mood.

          Warlords sprung up, pirated the shipments and controlled them for power throughout Africa, including somalia/Mogadishu.

          I’m not saying we shouldn’t do it anyway, but it’s not as easy as it sounds.

          Mostly, Saudi Arabia would do everything it could to disrupt this because they don’t want poor people getting any food if it doesn’t include indoctrination in their wahhabist Islam schools because as holders of mecca and Medina they believe they can use militant Islam to expand their influence throughout both the middle east and Africa (though isis backfired and made them think twice for a few years, they’re back at it now).

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            Oh yeah, I almost forgot about the ‘religious fundamentalist’ angle. How many poor people are lured in by promises of food security?

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                  So I did qualify as organized, but there are also tales where Buddhism becomes authoritarian and onerous, often small villages ruled by an elder monk and a few others.

                  I don’t consider those examples representative, more as proof that religion is an easy thing to corrupt for power. Otherwise I’d agree Buddhism seems more resilient to this than most, which makes sense, in a way it began a protest against the corruption and brutality in Hinduism.

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          Sorry that I ask questions instead of accepting whatever. Claiming that you just need to throw X money at such an extremely complex issue and then it will be solved world wide is just laughable. As if there are no bad actors etc. pp.

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            Just asking questions about if poor people should have enough food to live or if that would make them breed too much, no fucked-up Malthusian undertones here, nossir

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              That was never the point. The point is precisely that many poor people will NOT see the money/food/help just like all the times before now.

              I also assume that, even if they miraculously really all get it, you will have at least one boomer generation, so more people per area that need to be fed. You then need to immediately get education up and running. Things then need to be stable for decades to make the fertility rate drop. It is not a simple “costs X then solved forever worldwide” kind of thing. It is also not something we can somehow “force” on them, at least not by throwing money at the problem.

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          Money is only imaginary until I have to pay to keep a roof over my kids heads and feed them. Grow up and open your eyes.

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            Damn bro thats crazy who do you have to pay this totally real money to, and why, and what happens if you don’t? You need to grow up and open your eyes, you’re like a medeival peasant telling me that the King’s authority is a natural and divinely ordained part of nature. It’s sad.

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              Look, you can live in your parents bedroom not having to pay rent, surfing Lenny on thy internet you don’t pay for and act like you are the smartest person. Come to me when you get kicked out. Nice strawman by the way. Lrn to argue. But I get it, teenagers have a very small minded mentality. You’ll look back and realize how dumb you sound one day. Hopefully. Also hopefully your age matches your mental state. Otherwise you’re a lost cause.

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                  Look if you can tell me about some communist commune where I don’t have to do anything but posts shifty takes online, let me know. I’m down to be bum. Otherwise you are aren’t old enough for real responsibilities and you don’t know better, or going to your boring 9-5 making your money to try to stay afloat and talking out your ass online.

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    Is it just because of a funding crisis, or is it also because of rising prices partly due to sheer profiteering?

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      Not going to research this but I reckon that we done fucked ourselves with capitalism.

      Market failures are only for the people to absorb. The profits though…