China using families as 'hostages' to quash Uyghur dissent abroad
www.bbc.co.uk
Refugees and activists tell the BBC intimidation tactics are tearing apart Uyghur communities overseas.
  • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee
    1429·
    1 year ago

    They’re paid astroturfers and they don’t belong on Lemmy. Why the server admins refuse to police them, I just don’t know.

    • fishtacos@lemmy.ml
      268·
      1 year ago

      Wow, talk about conspiracy theories…

      “Every person who doesn’t participate in Sinophobi is paid off by the Chinese government”

      Like, really? You actually believe that? Was 911 an inside job? How hot DOES jet fuel get??? Is Q-anon real? Is the earth flat?

      If you’ve ever debunked a conspiracy theory, you should reconsider the idea that maybe, just maybe, not everyone hates China. It’s probably more likely than you think…

      Edit: And then they edited their comment to be more defensive instead. Perfect.

    • AEHNH@lemmy.ml
      269·
      1 year ago

      Me and the boys waiting for the ccp checks liberals said we were getting:

    • GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml
      64·
      1 year ago

      Can you provide even circumstantial evidence of people like myself being paid, or are you resorting to unhinged conspiracy theories to explain people vociferously disagreeing with you?

      • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee
        43·
        1 year ago

        It literally wouldn’t even matter, you’ll just deny it and refuse to concede even the most minor of points because for you, debate is not a means to find truth, it’s a power play. We’ve all seen it countless times. We know your game, your patterns of behavior, and since you do not want to play fairly because you’ll know you’ll lose, you don’t get to play at all. You don’t get to participate in discussions with us, especially not me. You’re isolated to your cult now. I hope you find happiness in choosing genocide.

        • GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml
          41·
          1 year ago

          Pardon me, I thought you were responding to a different comment (I was replying in my inbox to many different disputes). Seeing the actual context, this is ridiculous. You accuse me of being a paid actor and then say that you have no reason to present evidence of the accusation?

          Let us imagine that I was a paid actor and would behave exactly as you expect. Aren’t there other people reading the conversation? Wouldn’t it be worth proving to them that you aren’t just going on paranoid rants because your ideology has no way to deal with the concept of westerners freely disagreeing with you on these issues?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      02·
      1 year ago

      Imagine thinking there are paid astroturfers on a tiny niche platform with a few thousand users. We have some utterly insane people here after reddit migration.

      • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee
        0·
        1 year ago

        Imagine thinking governments, fascists and PR agencies wouldn’t migrate to wherever people choose to hang out and continue their decades-long campaign to brainwash people into believing whatever is convenient for them.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
          01·
          1 year ago

          I see you don’t understand the concept of niches. Governments, fascists, and PR agencies are going to spend their effort where it makes the most impact. Only a brainwashed person couldn’t comprehend that people could legitimately disagree with their world view, and anybody who thinks different from them must therefore be a paid troll.

          • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee
            0·
            1 year ago

            And now you’re defending the practice.

            How about, you and the rest of the dumbasses pushing your propaganda garbage go find another place to peddle it? Like hell?

              • socsa@lemmy.ml
                0·
                1 year ago

                First, I will take the compliment with grace.

                Second, this forum deserves a better class of communist. This shit is just intellectually lazy.

                • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
                  02·
                  1 year ago

                  Most socialists are people in the global south. Their projects that “tankies” support are actually being done. Most of this “you’re a tankie” shit stems from western chauvinist white man’s burden shit. Call us when you’ve done a successful socialist revolution, until then we’re going to be emulating the ideologies of successful socialist projects.

                  Edit: because lol “the US did a revolution” , read “the counter revolution of 1776”

                  • socsa@lemmy.ml
                    0·
                    1 year ago

                    So engaging in violence is the determining factor for determining who can have opinions?

                    That’s great news, because Marx drew pretty heavily from the French and US revolutions when discussing his own revolutionary framework. Where do I pick up my badge?

                    Edit - Just do a revolution! No not that way!