In short, we aren’t on track to an apocalyptic extinction, and the new head is concerned that rhetoric that we are is making people apathetic and paralyzes them from making beneficial actions.

He makes it clear too that this doesn’t mean things are perfectly fine. The world is becoming and will be more dangerous with respect to climate. We’re going to still have serious problems to deal with. The problems just aren’t insurmountable and extinction level.

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    oh look people in the comments who are missing the fucking point. I’m honestly so sick of this shit. You either have rainbows and unicorns and “we’ll just figure it out”/climate deniers to “WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH” apathetic fucks who won’t do shit* because “what’s the point we are all doomed anyway” which…causes the same problem as denying does.

    honestly i’ve delt with more people who refuse to change anything because “what’s the point” than I deal with outright deniers anymore.

    *not sure if anyone in the comments is an apathetic "do nothing though tbf and honest. So there is my disclaimer don’t @ me.

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      I see this all the time on social media, and it’s frustrating. I don’t want to dampen anyone’s passion for combating climate change (because I agree!), but it’s like a feedback loop for rhetoric that gets more and more extreme.

      Something that starts out as:

      “There was a wildfire in _____. This could be part of a larger trend related to climate change.”

      Turns into:

      “This fire was caused directly by climate change.”

      Turns into:

      “The world is on fire! Take shelter!”

      Turns into:

      “Don’t plan for the future. Don’t have children. Move somewhere cold and start prepping for the apocalypse.”

      You can literally watch this same process happen with every issue that gets traction on social media or cable news. Then one side looks at the most extreme comments from the other side and easily dismisses the whole thing.

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        I literally has a convo with two friends this weekend about how they won’t have kids because they think it’s irresponsible to raise them in a world “that might not exist when they’re adults”. The doomsaying and hyperbole is absolutely real.

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          What worries me about that thinking is that historically children have been the big reason for people to care about the future and what they’ll leave behind.

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            Yes, but you can also still care about doing that without having children. I hope that this doesn’t follow those trends.

            People can also love nature, animals, history, the arts, and lots of other things. They might want other people to still be able to enjoy the things that they love in the future. I would still care regardless of if I have kids or not, personally.

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      Ok, sure. Please tell me what I can do that will actually make a difference other than having it be a major influence in the way I vote?

      This is a problem that only governments can solve and voting is the only way average people can hope to really influence them.

      One person recycling or driving an EV makes no difference to the entire planet.

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      honestly i’ve delt with more people who refuse to change anything because “what’s the point” than I deal with outright deniers anymore.

      But most of the people who express that opinion aren’t saying it because they think that climate change is unstoppable.

      They are saying it because the changes that we know can help fight climate change, that we’ve known about for years, that international leaders can implement, aren’t being done.

      And this statement, from someone with a lot influence on global carbon emissions than the average person, seems very out of touch. He is telling off the people whose house is burning down, while ignoring the arsonists.

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        actually, a lot of them do think climate change is unstoppable in some way shape and form, I know cause i get told that almost every day. There are people doing it in these comments right now.

        Also, I read the article, he is not ignoring the issue here, and honestly, i think this is directed at the leaders too. Who do you think is spreading this gloom and doom in the first place? Who benefits from people giving up and we just live in a worst world when there is much we can do to fight? The fossil fuel-backed “leadership”.

        There are plenty of ways to fight, you just can’t do it alone. No one can fight climate change alone. Our individualism has warped our brains so that we cannot even fathom what to do at first when we ourselves cannot fix a problem by ourselves. Another outcome of hegemony and our corrupt society.

        only through building community and threatening the power structure can we effectively fight for real change. “leadership” (aka people with power who are all corrupt to a certain extent) will do nothing if they do not have a legitimate fear of the people, and that will not come without community building and throwing off the shackles of individualism.