I had a chat about switching to a vertical mouse, with the Ergonomist (desk ergonomics guy) at my workplace.
I short, he told me that if a regular mouse doesn’t cause issues, it’s not a good idea to switch. As your wrist and hand will have to adjust to different kinds of loads and movements which can start causing issues.
Wouldn’t you thumb it against your palm so that your fingers are always aligned with the buttons, such is the case with laying your hand atop a regular mouse?
Well… I know there’s actually three ways to hold a traditional mouse, I saw a video about it once. Which was surprising to me, but mostly because I have big hands and I can only hold a mouse one way.
But for me when I’m holding a horizontal mouse the mouse is “grasped” by my hand as a whole, and I’d say my pinky and thumb are in a way holding the mouse.
With a vertical mouse it’s much the same where my whole hand is grasping. I’m not holding it any more with my thumb because the thumb rests on the body of the mouse. In fact as I think about it and type this out I think I have to hold a horizontal mouse more than a vertical, but again it might just be related to hand size.
I use both. Horizontal for gaming so I can have more than two thumb buttons. Vertical for work as it does give my wrist and forearm a “rest.”
Edit: realized I didn’t necessarily answer your question. For me with the vertical mouse the buttons are just there where they need to be. And I guess clicking is a form of holding…
The G502 has a thumbplatform, so that’s where my thumb goes. My pinky can’t touch the mouse cause my ring finger is in the way. But its slightly tilted, so its not exactly a horizontal mouse. Not nearly as vertical as this though. I just move it via the top of my palm. A vertical mouse seems like it would be uncomfortable in my right hand but fine with my left (maybe related to mixed handedness, maybe related to the different ways my wrists healed after breaking).
You just lay your hand on it. After a few minutes it settles as a natural resting position. And let me tell you, it’s sooooo much better than resting your hand on a traditional mouse.
Best thing: these cheap vertical mice are not inherently worse than, say, a Logitech MX vertical. Just give it a try for 20 bucks.
Well random cheap mice could die after a while (happened to my brother), or need battery replacements often (happens to a colleague). Logi MX vertical has the benefit that you can charge it, and it lasts quite a long time before you need to recharge it.
Though honestly I’d never spend €100+ on a mouse. My company offered money to buy office things, I didn’t need anything so I took the mx vertical haha.
Just like a “normal” mouse you don’t hold it as much as you push it around. But we (at least, me and the people I’ve discussed this with) tend to actually “hold” normal mouses more because they are rarely very ergonomic and you can’t really move them in a satisfactory manner without gripping them at least a little.
Have you ever tried one of the MX masters? I used to have wrist problems but my master 3 just fits so well (the buttons are slightly angled, not as extremely as these vertical mice but like 20°) and its big enough to be able to comfortably rest my entire hand on it…
I briefly tried one, it’s probably my favorite Logitech mouse so far. I actually considered buying one when I had to change my mouse but I’m a sucker for those 12 buttons panels the razer nagas have
This makes sense. I LOVE my Logitech G502, but even though it seems “palmy” and my hands aren’t even that big, I end up claw-grabbing the thing really hard!
Yeah I had that one at work for a while and had the same problem ! Out of frustration I ended up trying out an ergonomic mouse just like in the OP that was lying around, and never came back
I tried and ironically my wrists didn’t like it at all.
I had a chat about switching to a vertical mouse, with the Ergonomist (desk ergonomics guy) at my workplace. I short, he told me that if a regular mouse doesn’t cause issues, it’s not a good idea to switch. As your wrist and hand will have to adjust to different kinds of loads and movements which can start causing issues.
I’ve never tried it but the idea of constantly holding something just sounds like hell for the carpals.
You don’t hold them any more than a horizontal mouse
Wouldn’t you thumb it against your palm so that your fingers are always aligned with the buttons, such is the case with laying your hand atop a regular mouse?
Well… I know there’s actually three ways to hold a traditional mouse, I saw a video about it once. Which was surprising to me, but mostly because I have big hands and I can only hold a mouse one way.
But for me when I’m holding a horizontal mouse the mouse is “grasped” by my hand as a whole, and I’d say my pinky and thumb are in a way holding the mouse.
With a vertical mouse it’s much the same where my whole hand is grasping. I’m not holding it any more with my thumb because the thumb rests on the body of the mouse. In fact as I think about it and type this out I think I have to hold a horizontal mouse more than a vertical, but again it might just be related to hand size.
I use both. Horizontal for gaming so I can have more than two thumb buttons. Vertical for work as it does give my wrist and forearm a “rest.”
Edit: realized I didn’t necessarily answer your question. For me with the vertical mouse the buttons are just there where they need to be. And I guess clicking is a form of holding…
The G502 has a thumbplatform, so that’s where my thumb goes. My pinky can’t touch the mouse cause my ring finger is in the way. But its slightly tilted, so its not exactly a horizontal mouse. Not nearly as vertical as this though. I just move it via the top of my palm. A vertical mouse seems like it would be uncomfortable in my right hand but fine with my left (maybe related to mixed handedness, maybe related to the different ways my wrists healed after breaking).
You just lay your hand on it. After a few minutes it settles as a natural resting position. And let me tell you, it’s sooooo much better than resting your hand on a traditional mouse. Best thing: these cheap vertical mice are not inherently worse than, say, a Logitech MX vertical. Just give it a try for 20 bucks.
Well random cheap mice could die after a while (happened to my brother), or need battery replacements often (happens to a colleague). Logi MX vertical has the benefit that you can charge it, and it lasts quite a long time before you need to recharge it.
Though honestly I’d never spend €100+ on a mouse. My company offered money to buy office things, I didn’t need anything so I took the mx vertical haha.
The more somebody tries to sell me something, the more apprehensive I am to it.
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I was experiencing some wrist pain at work so I had my employer buy me one. If you have real ergonomics concerns, you can always try that route.
Just like a “normal” mouse you don’t hold it as much as you push it around. But we (at least, me and the people I’ve discussed this with) tend to actually “hold” normal mouses more because they are rarely very ergonomic and you can’t really move them in a satisfactory manner without gripping them at least a little.
Have you ever tried one of the MX masters? I used to have wrist problems but my master 3 just fits so well (the buttons are slightly angled, not as extremely as these vertical mice but like 20°) and its big enough to be able to comfortably rest my entire hand on it…
I briefly tried one, it’s probably my favorite Logitech mouse so far. I actually considered buying one when I had to change my mouse but I’m a sucker for those 12 buttons panels the razer nagas have
This makes sense. I LOVE my Logitech G502, but even though it seems “palmy” and my hands aren’t even that big, I end up claw-grabbing the thing really hard!
Yeah I had that one at work for a while and had the same problem ! Out of frustration I ended up trying out an ergonomic mouse just like in the OP that was lying around, and never came back