• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Yeah fair enough analysis other than blaming capitalism for everything. A thing that you missed was that when people in poor countries get poorer, they can die of starvation or other things. Why do you believe that is worth it?

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      9 months ago

      You missed the point entirely. We don’t need to cut calories produced. The new arable land from not raising cattle and the turn of farm land from live stock feed to human feed will provide more than enough food.

      This isn’t a situation where we have to live in some dystopia, as long as we act now.

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        9 months ago

        Sure, in the developed richer countries, but not in the poor countries. Millions to hundrends of millions of people in poor countries would die.

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          9 months ago

          Why? Why would going green mean they can’t grow food suddenly? What about coal power and cow farts means you can’t grow corn?

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            9 months ago

            It doesnt mean you cant, it means that everything is more expensive, and means people in foreign countries cant afford things they need even more. If something like a billion people in the world are food insecure, a mild drought could make them starve.

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              9 months ago

              Meat would get more expensive yes. But energy production is perfectly capable of switching over without a bump. And non meat farm products would actually become cheaper as supply increases. We’re not magically causing a drought with such a changeover, at least not any extra ones.

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                9 months ago

                Think of the people in the world that are just getting by with just enough food to surive. If there were artificially made more expensive by world requirements on emissions and energy usage, this would make the things the poorest need too expensive for them to get and a simple drought would push them into starvation.

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                    9 months ago

                    Do you understand how the plan to save the environment would make everything more expensive?