Saw this story. Title should be ‘Idiot dies of starvation after not consuming vital nutrients.’
I’ve been vegan for years, I respect vegans who take their diet seriously, but this woman didn’t. She took ideology seriously.
You can’t just eat anything and expect to be ok.
The title should be “Influencer dies after contracting cholera-like disease and refusing medical help.”
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what?
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veganism (noun): the practice of eating only food not derived from animals and typically of avoiding the use of other animal products.
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No one said veganism was a diet
Actually
Veganism isn’t a diet.
probably a good idea to read the comment chain before replying.
The term you’re looking for is “mental illness”.
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yeah, its not the fall from the building that kills you, its the impact. totally unrelated.
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that was made worse by her restrictive diet.
Would it have killed her if:
One friend told 116.ru: "Ms Samsonova’s idle starvation was causing her to melt before our eyes, but she believed everything was fine.
Seems similar to dying in a car crash because you didn’t wear seat-belt. By not taking basic precautions her body wasn’t prepared to survive something that many others can. To be fair- the survival rate for untreated cholera is only around 40% I just don’t think her starting point of “slow starvation” was doing her any favors.
This might be the stupidest comment ive seen on this website.
yeah, its not the fall from the building that kills you, its the impact. totally unrelated.
It is the impact that kills you. That is proven by the fact that people fall from buildings and don’t die.
And the person never statet that it is unrelated. The opposite really.
You are not that sharp aren’t you? Otherwise why aren’t you able to understand this tiny bit of text correctly?
Are you suggesting a Murdoch-owned press might have printed something misleading?!?!
Not to brag but I pretty much eat anything and get by…
Yikes, pretty mean to call her an idiot. Seems like a high probability she was suffering from an eating disorder and/or other mental health issues. Most people don’t starve themselves to death out of stupidity.
Her official cause of death wasn’t revealed. Her diet did seem risky but too early to link it.
I have my doubts, it’s not a great variety I’m nutrients and it wouldn’t be an ideal overall diet, but I am very doubtful that it killed her.
Her diet was severely lacking in vital nutrients. When you have so much fibre and so little dense calories, for a decade, that adds up.
Eh true but considering she didn’t drink water (only coconut) and caught some cholera disease, well, that’s a recipe for disaster. That would be dangerous no matter for how long what kind of diet, cholera dehydrates you fast and you need to replenish electrolytes too.
Yeah but the immediate cause of death will be something else.
As an example, smoking generally does not kill you. It prepares your body to be trivially killed a by a plethora of other things, such as cancer or 2 tons in the face when you were distracted while driving because your cig well into your lap. But the smoking itself isn’t the proximate cause of the death.
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Again, the smoking does not kill you. The cancer does.
That’s about as valid as “guns don’t kill people, people do”.
Guns don’t kill people and people don’t kill people, bullets kill people.
She probably just didn’t eat enough. Apparently she only ate jackfruit. You can definitely stay healthy with fruit and veggies but you need to eat a lot of it and take B12 supplements. Especially if you don’t eat high carb food like potatoes or rice, since most vegetables aren’t very energy dense.
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Veganism was just a symptom.
I mean she lasted 10 years on the diet, is the diet really to blame or is cholera to blame? Like I guess maybe she didn’t wash a few of them thoroughly enough and caught it? It does raise a lot of questions.
She definitely doesn’t look healthy in the later photos, but is that because she’s sick? There isn’t really enough information provided in the article other than her friends being concerned.
I mean she lasted 10 years on the diet, is the diet really to blame or is cholera to blame? Like I guess maybe she didn’t wash a few of them thoroughly enough and caught it? It does raise a lot of questions.
The answer is “Yes”. And no it doesn’t raise a lot of questions, tbh.
If you eat badly - no matter which way - your body is automatically weaker and less able to withstand hardship.
Make it weak enough, and then find the right hardship, and congralations, you are now dead.
Note that both of these are on a sliding scale: You can eat 100% healthy, a hardship such as a nuclear bomb exploding while pressed on your eyeball will still do you in. You can have the worst of diets for years, and as long as nothing at all immediately threatens you, you’ll survive. And somewhere in between, Zhanna managed to make her body weak enough that a simple cholera infection did her in.
https://nypost.com/2023/07/31/vegan-influencer-starved-to-death-friends/
This is slightly less critical and goes a bit deeper into the diet.
So really her diet being vegan is only because she ate 1 type of food for 7 years… Thats nothing to do with being vegan, it has everything to do with being silly.
But ofc British tabloids are always there just to cause controversy and not offer any real value to spread information.
Thank you! A better title would be “Influencer dies of malnutrition induced by eating disorder”
Which is something we should talk about but not blame on the vEgaNS
From the Post article :
A proponent of uncooked herbivorous fare, the Kasan native claimed she ate a “completely raw vegan diet” for the last four years, consuming just “fruits, sunflower seed sprouts, fruit smoothies, and juices.”
many of her devoted followers refused to believe her eating choices led to her death, instead claiming that she was killed by chemicals in the fruit she ate.
The durians fought back!
Looking at her stick figure arms, she starved herself like every other person with an eating disorder. Just that her disorder was disguised as “a food choice” and that she had a huge following that did not help her even at a point when everyone could see her melting away not just the family. I hope people who cheered her on feel bad now, but they probably just change to the next person with an eating disorder.
Being vegan or eating a more special diet is not a problem as long as you get a regular check up at your doctor, have a basic knowledge about nutrition and monitor your weight so it stays at a healthy point, she clearly didn’t. She consulted her fans instead. Sad. My heart goes out to her family and friends.
Friends also said she refused to get medical attention before her death, and described how she was bed bound and struggled to walk, according to local media.
They also claimed she had not drunk any water for six years, choosing instead to drink fruit and vegetable juice.
What a dumb way to die. It’s totally possible to be fine on a plant based diet but definitely not if you only eat raw fruit and vegetables without even drinking water.
Archive link: https://archive.li/EYhPc
It’s mostly tabloid press covering this story, but here’s one slightly more legitimate source I found: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/08/01/zhanna-samsonova-tiktok-instagram-vegan-diet-dies/
(archive link: https://archive.li/Pz4S8)It looks like the cause of death should be mental illness
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Yeah, a lot of people don’t seem to realize that cooking food is a MAJOR component of what exploded our evolution. Cooking food allows us to digest it much better and receive far more nutrition.
Vegans don’t drink water now?
Odd question… How is an influencers death “world news”? Or is “world news” synonymous with “News published somewhere other than the US”?
Crazy… Just being a vegan without consuming carbs and water?
She ate vegetables and fruits, those have a ton of carbs and water.
Darwin law. Nature will weed out the idiots.
