My excitement is tempered by two things, the ultra cost being a subscription (I get the “why” I just hate more subscriptions) and also the pretty crappy targeted adverts “consent” whereby you have to scroll through page after page of third party vendors to turn off the “legitimate” interest which is, let’s be honest their way around consent by just ignoring what you want. That’s put me right off in all honesty sorry.
Man, when the Pro lifetime comes out I’m there but at this point I’m not going to engage at all with either being tracked by advertisers or being forced to go through all that. There are other open source apps that don’t do any of that which may not be quite as good but the difference is worth it. Lemmy doesn’t have any ads. Why should I subject myself to ads or being tracked to use what is already free?
Because you know what sync provides and why it’s worth spending money on it. I get these arguments and they are valid but no one forces anyone to use an app. You can just ignore it. I also prefer open source apps and don’t like subscriptions but I bought the Ultra even if I just want to remove the ads. Also the price is not that big so i think of it as a donation.
It’s a nice app, but so is Jerboa, which does not have ads. If there was a one-time ad-free purchase; I would strongly consider it; but I’m not going to pay a subscription to avoid ads on an already ad-free website.
This is also the dev that got really hurt over his paying customers not liking when he completely changed the app they paid for under their nose with no option to roll back, and quit pushing updates for a while after that. It was a whole thing.
I’m not paying a dev that can’t handle feedback and has an entire fanclub cheering on literally every single decision.
The dev don’t want to charge money while the app is still buggy. The subscription option is there for the die hard fans who keep pestering him to let them send their money
This right here. I had ultra for reddit and was paying monthly out of my Google rewards earnings. I’m going to do the same again.
I’m never surprised by the lack of understanding as to what it actually costs to run the servers and the time that goes into services and apps like this.
Haha I was the same and didn’t know what to do with myself when I deleted the other app when the blackouts started. Like I would take my phone out, stare at it for a few seconds and put it away again.
Anyway I found other things to do instead of Reddit, and now I’m wondering if it’s a good idea to get Sync again lol. I’ve done so well!
Then there’s me, who actively went hunting for where I could pay for this app as soon as I opened it
This dev has never been anything but respectful of his community. I have no qualms paying him the equivalent of 2 beers a year for something I have used for multiple hours a day every day for more than a decade. Easy value proposition.
The targeted ads thing I guess I get, but I haven’t had ads on Sync for so long it honestly didn’t really phase me because I planned to buy ad free anyway. Hopefully that bit gets streamlined.
It’s amazing how many cookie consent banners aren’t compliant. There has to be a button where you can clearly reject all, where it has equal look and feel as accept all. By default all non required cookies must be disabled, but the fact we can turn off the legitimate interest options shows they’re not required, and so they’re not compliant.
Basically every banner should have a reject button that’s just as clear as the accept. I’d you’re going through any extra effort to reject then it’s not compliant.
Would be good to have both options. Someone prefers to have a subscription to cancel whenever, and someone wants to not think about it anymore after purchasing.
One, I want to support devs making top tier clients for lemmy. Two, this stuff isn’t free to do or maintain, as a dev, I recognize and appreciate that.
If someone comes out with a better client for cheaper, then I’ll switch, otherwise, these terms are acceptable.
I have been using Sync (for rediit) since its early day. During that time, it had a free and paid Pro version. The inrony is, there was no difference between the free and paid version, both have same features and no ads. Anyway, I paid for the Pro, because I was so satisfied and happy using it, and I because want to help the dev. Its been using it for so many years until last month. It was more than worth it.
Now we have sync for lemmy version, I am with no doubt coming back to it. If I can, I will pay for Ultra, but not for this moment - taking into acoout of exchange rate in my country (third world SEA country). Given the chance if I get back living in Europe, II will pay for it.
The ads is not a welcomed feature, but it pales into insignificance, buried by my excitement having back Sync. Sync is not and opensource app - at the end of the day, someone need to pay for bills. I heard they could be an ad-free pro version, but not sure. Maybe you can ask those at Discord. If yes, it could be a much affordable alternative.
Well, if you need to tell people that, it’s not clear enough and thus breaks the law. I don’t know what it looks like and I can imagine you used a third party to provide it, but for user friendliness it could be a good idea to change it. I doubt you would get into legal trouble though since a lot of websites use this same format, but I always hate it when I see it.
It’s a service, why should you pay once? It’s like water and electricity, ongoing cost needs to be balanced by ongoing revenue. Especially when the utility is also ongoing.
If you prefer paying once, get some dividend ETFs and use the dividends to pay for the service. Yes, it’s expensive, but you can also sell the etf again when you stop using the service.
I get why subscriptions exist but everything right now is trying to push you into a subscription. I really don’t need yet another subscription in my life.
I’m all for paying for Sync but it won’t be via a subscription. Sorry.
My excitement is tempered by two things, the ultra cost being a subscription (I get the “why” I just hate more subscriptions) and also the pretty crappy targeted adverts “consent” whereby you have to scroll through page after page of third party vendors to turn off the “legitimate” interest which is, let’s be honest their way around consent by just ignoring what you want. That’s put me right off in all honesty sorry.
Man, when the Pro lifetime comes out I’m there but at this point I’m not going to engage at all with either being tracked by advertisers or being forced to go through all that. There are other open source apps that don’t do any of that which may not be quite as good but the difference is worth it. Lemmy doesn’t have any ads. Why should I subject myself to ads or being tracked to use what is already free?
Because you know what sync provides and why it’s worth spending money on it. I get these arguments and they are valid but no one forces anyone to use an app. You can just ignore it. I also prefer open source apps and don’t like subscriptions but I bought the Ultra even if I just want to remove the ads. Also the price is not that big so i think of it as a donation.
It’s a nice app, but so is Jerboa, which does not have ads. If there was a one-time ad-free purchase; I would strongly consider it; but I’m not going to pay a subscription to avoid ads on an already ad-free website.
This is also the dev that got really hurt over his paying customers not liking when he completely changed the app they paid for under their nose with no option to roll back, and quit pushing updates for a while after that. It was a whole thing.
I’m not paying a dev that can’t handle feedback and has an entire fanclub cheering on literally every single decision.
Yeah I’m sticking with voyager/memmy
I believe the developer is working on a one-time payment Pro version that removes ads. Ultra has additional features for a subscription fee.
It’s out now. $20. No thanks.
I bought it. I want to support LJ. He’s doing a great job and really got shafted by reddit.
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Glad to hear 👍
Edit image for those who are curious:
How is it “in the works”? It’s not hard to implement, seeing as how he already did it.
And no timeline when it’s coming just a promise it will?
Sounds more like he just wants to test the waters and see what he can make.
The dev don’t want to charge money while the app is still buggy. The subscription option is there for the die hard fans who keep pestering him to let them send their money
Because he prioritized his time in getting the application usable rather than implementing various tiers of payments instead.
One of the messages to the discord this morning seems to indicate he’s planning on adding the one time ad-free unlock today.
I like sync and spend most of my phone screen time on it so I’m all for buying lj a case of beer once a year.
This right here. I had ultra for reddit and was paying monthly out of my Google rewards earnings. I’m going to do the same again.
I’m never surprised by the lack of understanding as to what it actually costs to run the servers and the time that goes into services and apps like this.
Haha I was the same and didn’t know what to do with myself when I deleted the other app when the blackouts started. Like I would take my phone out, stare at it for a few seconds and put it away again.
Anyway I found other things to do instead of Reddit, and now I’m wondering if it’s a good idea to get Sync again lol. I’ve done so well!
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idk man 530 TRY is kinda not that small of a donation
yeah it was 185 try in sync for reddit although it was probably last updated when try/usd was 20 or so
If you use dns.adguard.com you won’t have any ads.
In case you don’t know, there is a newer version which I’ve been rocking for a while with no notable impact:
dns.adguard-dns.com
What’s the difference? Better blocklist? If yes, why did they not update the old domain?
Who knows!
Well until anyone knows I think I’ll stick with the old one lol
I always have Blokada running on my phone and while it does remove the ads it still leaves behind a large blank space in the feed.
There’s hope - https://github.com/ReVanced/revanced-patches/issues/2724
Yeah, Sync is a great app but it’s basically subscription or ads+tracking for a really slick UI.
Same, I’m ok with a subscription but I would want it like Sync for Reddit where I pay 5-6-7€ to remove the ads and the rest can stay on Ultra.
Edit: Also the per vendor “legitimate interest” toggle without the option to decline all at once is pretty scummy and also illegal.
And the list is soon loooong
Where is this toggle?
Main page > Menu > Settings > Privacy > Revoke GDPR permissions
I also don’t see this anywhere… Would love some clues!
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Thanks for having the balls to say this, because yeah, I immediately noticed this.
Then there’s me, who actively went hunting for where I could pay for this app as soon as I opened it
This dev has never been anything but respectful of his community. I have no qualms paying him the equivalent of 2 beers a year for something I have used for multiple hours a day every day for more than a decade. Easy value proposition.
The targeted ads thing I guess I get, but I haven’t had ads on Sync for so long it honestly didn’t really phase me because I planned to buy ad free anyway. Hopefully that bit gets streamlined.
It’s amazing how many cookie consent banners aren’t compliant. There has to be a button where you can clearly reject all, where it has equal look and feel as accept all. By default all non required cookies must be disabled, but the fact we can turn off the legitimate interest options shows they’re not required, and so they’re not compliant.
Basically every banner should have a reject button that’s just as clear as the accept. I’d you’re going through any extra effort to reject then it’s not compliant.
We need a Pro version, ad free, but without a subscription. Ultra should stay ultra.
Thanks for pointing that out. Big no for me. I shuddered when I saw Facebook mentioned there.
Would be good to have both options. Someone prefers to have a subscription to cancel whenever, and someone wants to not think about it anymore after purchasing.
I bought the yearly subscription.
One, I want to support devs making top tier clients for lemmy. Two, this stuff isn’t free to do or maintain, as a dev, I recognize and appreciate that.
If someone comes out with a better client for cheaper, then I’ll switch, otherwise, these terms are acceptable.
I have been using Sync (for rediit) since its early day. During that time, it had a free and paid Pro version. The inrony is, there was no difference between the free and paid version, both have same features and no ads. Anyway, I paid for the Pro, because I was so satisfied and happy using it, and I because want to help the dev. Its been using it for so many years until last month. It was more than worth it.
Now we have sync for lemmy version, I am with no doubt coming back to it. If I can, I will pay for Ultra, but not for this moment - taking into acoout of exchange rate in my country (third world SEA country). Given the chance if I get back living in Europe, II will pay for it.
The ads is not a welcomed feature, but it pales into insignificance, buried by my excitement having back Sync. Sync is not and opensource app - at the end of the day, someone need to pay for bills. I heard they could be an ad-free pro version, but not sure. Maybe you can ask those at Discord. If yes, it could be a much affordable alternative.
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Clicking X rejects consent from everything.
Not for me, in fact, my one doesn’t seem to save the preferences and I’m not using beta.
Well, if you need to tell people that, it’s not clear enough and thus breaks the law. I don’t know what it looks like and I can imagine you used a third party to provide it, but for user friendliness it could be a good idea to change it. I doubt you would get into legal trouble though since a lot of websites use this same format, but I always hate it when I see it.
Theres also the big do not consent button
That will still allow “legitimate interest”.
It’s a service, why should you pay once? It’s like water and electricity, ongoing cost needs to be balanced by ongoing revenue. Especially when the utility is also ongoing.
If you prefer paying once, get some dividend ETFs and use the dividends to pay for the service. Yes, it’s expensive, but you can also sell the etf again when you stop using the service.
One of the dumbest comments I read here.
can you enlighten me?
I get why subscriptions exist but everything right now is trying to push you into a subscription. I really don’t need yet another subscription in my life.
I’m all for paying for Sync but it won’t be via a subscription. Sorry.