• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    The Internet hatred for furries always bothered me. I’m not into it, I think it’s weird, but so what? I think BDSM is weird too, but we don’t treat people into BDSM like we treat furries- as if they’re some sort of disease. I’ve met a few working at sci-fi/comic cons over the years and they’ve always been really nice, decent people. They just have a kink. Lots of people have kinks.

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      I think it’s the fact that furries tend to bring their kink public. I have not consented to engage in your sex games. If he showed up to a ceremony in leather and a ballgag no one would be ok with it, but the fur suit is the equivalent and I’m expected to applaud.

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        You sound like the kind of person that wants to ban drag story time at the libraries because “kids shouldn’t be exposed to someone’s kink”

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          So the distinction I feel here is that women are people. If a man wants to dress like a woman, sure, most people can interact with women in public, whatever. If you want to call them both, broadly, a form of cosplay, then drag is a costume that doesn’t fundamentally change much. Animals aren’t people.

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        11 months ago

        The fursuit is the equivalent??? I’m actually laughing rn people think this???

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        A big part of this misconception is actually from That Episode. You can actually google the phrase That Episode. No need to even specify the show, just those two words are enough (but the show is CSI). There’s a bunch to read into if you’d like, but the important bit is that a big part of public opinion - which has only recently begun to change, and only in some parts of the internet - comes from That Episode’s portrayal of furries

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        11 months ago

        the fur suit is the equivalent [of] leather and a ballgag

        I mean, no. It’s really not.

        I do get what you’re saying and generally agree otherwise. That one was just a bit much.

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          11 months ago

          I agree. I’ve seen furries in public and while I find them odd, I never saw any of their costumes as inherently sexual.

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              11 months ago

              except they don’t though, where are you coming up with this?

              say someone is attracted to women, right? is every female body they see gonna be viewed exclusively through a sexual lens?

              some people get kinky with ropes, are those inherently sexual too? where’s the line?

      • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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        11 months ago

        Would you say the same about police officers, nurses, nuns, motorcycle wear and so on?

        If the body isnt indecently exposed i find it hard to draw the line, since everything and nothing is someones kink.

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      11 months ago

      I blame the astroturfing early on. The furry community never really overcame the weird allegations from their first major convention. It also doesn’t help that people think furry is JUST a sexual thing.

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        11 months ago

        Imma level with you chief: I would think it was less weird if it was JUST a sexual thing.

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      11 months ago

      Furries are odd fellows, but they steam a good ham make a good cooling suit.

      It ain’t for me, but I do somewhat respect that they have a hobby they’re all-in on.

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      11 months ago

      Sure they’re all nice and great people but I can see the other side, comparing it to BDSM it would be like going to work in a gimp suit.

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      And many replies here are people hating on furries, and people actually thinking fursuits are primarily a sexual thing, this is wild lmao.

      From someone actually from the community, fursuits are NOT a sexual thing for the VAST majority of furries, and should not be treated as such. Can’t believe I still have to say this.

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      The problem is that the sexually charged furries have trouble understanding and respecting other’s boundaries. This is an even larger problem when you’re dealing with a community that tends to appeal to younger people. It doesn’t help that there have been several very public cases of well known furries being engaged in things so horrible I’m not even comfortable mentioning it here (hint: age and/or species and/or aliveness).

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      11 months ago

      People who are into BDSM keep in the bedroom. It’s not like they are going out of their way to wear their costumes.

      Furries want to wear their costumes every chance they get.

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    11 months ago

    My wife and I were talking about this and it made me wonder if anybody even actually gives a crap about furries at all, or if hating them is just an internet meme and nobody actually cares IRL.

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      11 months ago

      I cringe when I see fursuits or people making their lives about their fursona, but it’s their lives and no one should hate them for it.

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        Yeah, for me it’s like people who go ALL in on collecting kitsch. Is it a bit cringe? Sure. Is it hurting anyone? No, there’s nothing inherently wrong with it. And if you have the guts to stand up and show it proudly, man, more power to you.

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        Personally, I see it similar to wearing BSDM gear or those cropped hentai shirts in public. Are you free to do it? Yes, but I’m also going to judge you for it

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        from what i’ve heard talking to other furries, “embracing the cringe” is a somewhat common part of the fandom for a lot of us. “furry hate” is just an evolved form of school kids making fun of eachother for liking different things.

        there’s just something so freeing about saying “yeah i pretend to be a dog on the internet for fun”, especially when you just know it’s gonna make someone somewhere SO MAD for literally no worthwhile reason.

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          As a deer with a human face I assure you that I have no idea what you’re talking about.

          Uwu, and such.

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      I give a crap in that they’re people and should be treated respectfully like you’d treat anyone. Other than that as long as no one’s getting hurt I really don’t bother myself with dictating how others should live their lives. Life’s short, do what makes you happy.

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        11 months ago

        I get that for most people it’s not sexual. But for the people who is is, it’s pretty weird/uncomfortable to wear your fetish gear in public.

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          There’s all sorts of things that the majority of folks don’t sexualize that some people do. Are you going to get upset about someone wearing knee high socks in public just because it is a fetish for some people?

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            I would think it’s weird for the people who fetishize knee high socks to wear them in public. So I don’t think it’s necessary bad for anyone to wear furry stuff, but it is if they get off to it.

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              What makes you think someone who has a knee high sock fetish is incapable of wearing knee high socks without getting off to it in public?

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      11 months ago

      It’s definitely one of those internet’s stupid “hate for the lulz” things

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    11 months ago

    During work travel a few years back I happened to stay at a Marriott with my wife during a furry convention. We knew something was odd when, while looking for a parking spot, we passed by a patron who was unloading luggage from their trunk and we thought we noticed a tail protruding from the back of their pants. For about a minute we didn’t make much of it. Then, while walking from the lot to the main entrance, we noticed from about 100 yards out, a few people in what we assumed were mascot costumes. It was only when we made our entrance that I realized what we stumbled upon. I felt like a regular doctor Doolittle - surrounded by all kinds of animals that I could actually talk to and they to me (well, sorta - when I passed by a couple squirrels near the sushi bar, I was unable to translate the chirping noises they were making to each other). Long story short, it was super entertaining and they were cool when I asked them about their culture, etc. I only wish I loved something (family/friends aside) half as much as they love to dress like furry animals. But I’m boring. Even this wall of text I wrote makes me want to nap.

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    11 months ago

    This is what Putin should fear. His army can never compete with the tactical uwus and rawrs of our special foworces.