So mobility scooters/electric wheelchairs don’t exist and no disabled person can ever ride a bike? And disabled people should be forced to buy a car (that is expensive) to do the most basic things (like going to the store or hospital)? And it’s easier to navigate around car traffic than people walking and biking?
last time I checked, buses, trains, and planes didn’t go DIRECTLY TO THE PLACE YOU NEED TO GO. YOU HAVE TO GET OFF AND KEEP GOING TO THE ACTUAL LOCATION YOU NEED TO GET TO.
When you build a community around mass transit, these services do in fact drop you off directly at your destination.
Check out Terminal Tower in Cleveland, Ohio. A 52-story skyscraper built directly above the Cleveland Union Terminal. Penn Station, NY is directly across the street from Madison Square Garden and in the beating heart of the city’s largest shopping quarter. Transbay Transit Center in San Fransisco is surrounded by enormous apartment blocks. And these are in the states, where our transit networks generally suck.
Tokyo’s Metro has an entire in-built navigation system for the blind, with metro stops at some of the densest housing, retail, and business districts in the world. There is nowhere else in the world you would rather be wheelchair bound, sightless, or otherwise disabled.
The dirty secret about mass transit is that it encourages dense urban development. And, as a consequence, it reduces the total distance traveled from your front door to your destination. This, combined with large public municipal works friendly to disabled individuals, means you can leverage economies of scale in public investment rather than being forced to take up the entire burden of your disability on your own shoulders.
Elevators are the most efficient and disability friendly forms of mass transit. But they’re enormously expensive for individuals to build and maintain.
I’m the person that is being attacked by your very attitudes and words
If you feel attacked because I’m suggesting meaningful improvements to your quality of life, I have to question what your end goal is.
Are you sadistically inflicting misery upon yourself? Or are you simply burned out from all the individualized burdens of disability heaped upon the individual in a society that refuses to invest in high quality mass transit on a national scale?
Either way, I believe you’ve fallen to a kind of car-owner Stockholm Syndrome. Trapped in a machine that tortures you for so long you’ve lost sight of the scars.
My life is not a living hell. The fact that I’m too disabled to drive doesn’t cause me any problems except for the problems of a car dependent society. The problems you want to make worse for me. Because you’re an ableist.
Arrogance is always paired with ignorance. Try to read a book every now and then. You know, one of those square things we elitists use to share our knowledge.
Which of the two pictures show somewhere that is more accessible to someone using a wheelchair, the same accessibility aid that would allow them to access the shops themselves?
The one with level access, clearer visibility and without the risk of not being seen by a chunk of metal travelling at relative high speed or the one that has on street parking?
Lol, the car brain on this one. People with disabilities get by fine in the Netherlands. In fact, they lead a way more fulfilling life because they get to be part of day to day life. If your disability is this severe, you’d need help anyway. There’s no way you can drive a car with a disability that bad. Go play in traffic, you seem to love it so much.
If you can’t get to where you need to go easily, how the fuck do they get to be part of day to day life? Ooops, yet another lie by the hateful ableists. Fuck off.
They park in the area 100-200m further away? And if they really just need something real quick, they drive to a mall? I have a feeling you are a bit… Dumb?
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People with wheelchairs can move better on the roads with cars?
Obviously. Harpoon any passing car, and off you go.
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So mobility scooters/electric wheelchairs don’t exist and no disabled person can ever ride a bike? And disabled people should be forced to buy a car (that is expensive) to do the most basic things (like going to the store or hospital)? And it’s easier to navigate around car traffic than people walking and biking?
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builds impassable six lane highway through center of town
tears up all the sidewalks and floods the air with noxious vehicle exhaust
no public transit, you just need to put your vehicle on the other side of a half-acre wide parking lot and hoof it in the middle of the baking sun
Thank goodness we made all these improvements for the sake of people with mobility issues.
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You’re not going to believe this, but buses, trains, and planes also have special seating and services for people with mobility issues.
The big difference is that you don’t need to go out of pocket for your own bespoke mobility friendly automobile to use the bus.
Where did I lie? Show your work.
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When you build a community around mass transit, these services do in fact drop you off directly at your destination.
Check out Terminal Tower in Cleveland, Ohio. A 52-story skyscraper built directly above the Cleveland Union Terminal. Penn Station, NY is directly across the street from Madison Square Garden and in the beating heart of the city’s largest shopping quarter. Transbay Transit Center in San Fransisco is surrounded by enormous apartment blocks. And these are in the states, where our transit networks generally suck.
Tokyo’s Metro has an entire in-built navigation system for the blind, with metro stops at some of the densest housing, retail, and business districts in the world. There is nowhere else in the world you would rather be wheelchair bound, sightless, or otherwise disabled.
The dirty secret about mass transit is that it encourages dense urban development. And, as a consequence, it reduces the total distance traveled from your front door to your destination. This, combined with large public municipal works friendly to disabled individuals, means you can leverage economies of scale in public investment rather than being forced to take up the entire burden of your disability on your own shoulders.
Elevators are the most efficient and disability friendly forms of mass transit. But they’re enormously expensive for individuals to build and maintain.
If you feel attacked because I’m suggesting meaningful improvements to your quality of life, I have to question what your end goal is.
Are you sadistically inflicting misery upon yourself? Or are you simply burned out from all the individualized burdens of disability heaped upon the individual in a society that refuses to invest in high quality mass transit on a national scale?
Either way, I believe you’ve fallen to a kind of car-owner Stockholm Syndrome. Trapped in a machine that tortures you for so long you’ve lost sight of the scars.
I’m in Houston. Hell would be an improvement.
Cause that narrow-ass curb used to be very wheelchair accessible indeed.
Paris is a nightmare city for people with mobility issues.
Hey look, it’s someone using disabled people as their personal prop to push a political agenda that harms those same people
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My life is not a living hell. The fact that I’m too disabled to drive doesn’t cause me any problems except for the problems of a car dependent society. The problems you want to make worse for me. Because you’re an ableist.
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And now the ableist has gone mask off to yell at one of the very same disabled people they earlier claimed to be fighting for.
Fuck off! Cars are the sole reason actual disabled people can’t access streets like Oxford Street in Lodon.
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No, pretty sure it is because of stairs.
Making every building accessible by wheels is what cars are good at unfortinuately.
This confuses me. How do cars help people climb stairs?
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How is veganism elitist? it’s trying to prevent mass slaughter and incredible suffering. Grow up and take reaponsibility.
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What animals are being killed to harvest vegetables?
Arrogance is always paired with ignorance. Try to read a book every now and then. You know, one of those square things we elitists use to share our knowledge.
Could you explain how this is less accessible? Is a mall less accessible because you can’t drive your car inside?
Tell me how a blind person can drive.
A blind person can live in the road taken in photo in this post.
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Only one sounding hateful here is you.
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*snicker*
Which of the two pictures show somewhere that is more accessible to someone using a wheelchair, the same accessibility aid that would allow them to access the shops themselves?
The one with level access, clearer visibility and without the risk of not being seen by a chunk of metal travelling at relative high speed or the one that has on street parking?
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Not rich enough to buy a motorized wheelchair but still able to buy a fucking car?
I think there’s a price difference between a 3000€ wheelchair and a 24 000€ car, no?
Also:
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You are the personification of a strawman argument
Lol, the car brain on this one. People with disabilities get by fine in the Netherlands. In fact, they lead a way more fulfilling life because they get to be part of day to day life. If your disability is this severe, you’d need help anyway. There’s no way you can drive a car with a disability that bad. Go play in traffic, you seem to love it so much.
If you can’t get to where you need to go easily, how the fuck do they get to be part of day to day life? Ooops, yet another lie by the hateful ableists. Fuck off.
They park in the area 100-200m further away? And if they really just need something real quick, they drive to a mall? I have a feeling you are a bit… Dumb?
truly ableist comment: maybe the disability is mental after all
Yeah, good luck driving in London anyway.
Finally someone with a sincere and compassionate argument for car acess everywhere. Never heard that one before, great point!