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A controversial European Union legislative proposal to scan the private messages of citizens in a bid to detect child sexual abuse material (CSAM) is a
  • BrikoXEnglish
    35·
    10 days ago

    How about the false positives? You want your name permanently associated with child porn because someone fucked up and ruined your life? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/googles-scans-private-photos-led-false-accusations-child-abuse

    The whole system is so flawed that it has like 20-25% success rate.

    Or how about this system being adopted for anything else? Guns? Abortion? LGBT related issues? Once something gets implemented, it’s there forever and expansion is inevitable. And each subsequent government will use it for their personal agenda.

    • eveninghere@beehaw.org
      15·
      9 days ago

      They say they the images are merely matched to pre-determined images found on the web. You’re talking about a different scenario where AI detects inappropriate contents in an image.

      • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
        5·
        9 days ago

        change one pixel and suddenly it doesn’tmatch. Do the comparison based on similarity instead and now you’re back to false positives

        • eveninghere@beehaw.org
          13·
          9 days ago

          My guess was that this law was going to permit something as simple as pixel matching. Honestly I don’t imagine they can codify in the law something more sophisticated. Companies don’t want false positives either, at the very least due to profits.

          • Inductor@feddit.de
            4·
            9 days ago

            Unfourtunately, I couldn’t find a source stating it would be required. AFAIK it’s been assumed that they would use perceptual hashes, since that’s what various companies have been suggesting/presenting. Like Apple’s NeuralHash, which was reverse engineered. It’s also the only somewhat practical solution, since exact matches would be easily be circumvented by changing one pixel or mirroring the image.

            Patrick Breyer’s page on Chat Control has a lot of general information about the EU’s proposal.

            • eveninghere@beehaw.org
              2·
              9 days ago

              Stupid regulation, honestly. Exact matches are implementable but further than that… Aren’t they basically banning e2ee at this point?

              Now I see why Signal will close in EU.