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    1 year ago

    Nobody said biden is good. Hes the better option. The other two options are an old dried up french fry whos going to jail and a psychopath. American politics is fucked and it was always fucked because its designed that way.

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      Hes the better option.

      In what way? The wall is going up, the kids are still in cages, COVID runs rampant, the economy is in the shitter and getting worse, LGBT/women’s rights are under assault and getting worse, oil drilling leases are being signed away like nothing, Ukraine is being drip-fed weapons to prolong the war without end, Sinophobia is national policy in all but name, and federal police funding is at an all-time high. If Trump had won in 2020, what would be worse or even different?

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          Pretty much. Dipshit hasn’t and will never respond of course; I wonder if this was just bait to get some screengrabs and crawl back out into the wider lemmyverse

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        From what i see and hear it slows down the enshitification but doesnt prevent it. Im far too unwise to solve a problem on the other side of the world. My best solution would be protesting if i lived in the usa. Gather your local community and try to make small changes at first and if everyone makes small changes thats a big change.

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          The only difference since Biden took office is that liberals are telling protestors to stop protesting the same things that happened under Trump because now the protests are highlighting the fact liberals didn’t change anything and making them look bad.

          At least when a republican is president liberals pretend to care about minorities, when there’s a dem president those same criticisms from those same minorities are just handwoven away as Russian disinformatsia.

        • Cloudx189 [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Protestesting national foreign policy? With media blackouts and a militarized police and border force? From a barely nascent left that can barely fathom the plight of immigration against a far right that craves for the suffering of “illegals” . Ya, no.

    • RollaD20 [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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      That would be great if dem supporters actually criticized this policy (and engaged politically outside of the kiddy pool of republican-democrat electoralism), but the majority don’t seem to think it is an issue. Many believe that Biden shouldn’t be criticized at all because it helps trump. Cough Cough.

      If american politics is fubar then it’s fubar and we should be done with the facade of the “better option” and strive to redesign it rather than acquiesce to the horror.

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        Biden already looks bad. The only way to make a politician do what you want is to criticize them. Always supporting someone because they wear the same colours as you is idiotic so yesh i agree with you. Idk how you would change american politics. Its like changing the rules of a game that youre trapped in. Maybe a civil war would be a good thing in the end but idk.

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          The only way to make a politician do what you want is to criticize them.

          Yup, theyre all so thin skinned we managed to prevent wars based on lies and get universal healthcare by calling Bush gay.

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          The only way to make a politician do what you want is to criticize them.

          Who opened the fucking lib gate.

          Literally all democrats did for the last 10 years has been criticize right wing politicians how’s that worked out.

          The fucking Jan 6th hogs had a better understanding of how material conditions affect politics they just made the mistake of overestimating their popular support.

          If you honestly think the only way to influence politicians is “criticism” youre already a neutered counter revolutionary.

    • ZapataCadabra [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Nobody said biden is good.

      Then we should continue to point out when he does bad things, no? I’m genuinely curious what your point is here? Should we not be concerned when “the lesser evil” does something bad? I don’t see what the value is in saying “Trump is worse” here. Trump isn’t president, Biden is.

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        I interpreted the title as op saying biden and trump are equally as bad which isnt true in my opinion. My solution would be to fucking wreak shit and replace the system in murica but we all know that wont happen. I think even one change like a ranking based voting system could change things big time. No more two party system because you can safely vote for your actual party of choice. Still as an european im not planning on solving america by proxy lol. Here in europe we have our own shit to deal with.

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        And accomplished absolutely nothing and everybody was back in their cars 10 minutes after the end of the officially sanctioned protesting hours.

        Liberal protests are by definition useless because if you were doing anything that could effect change liberals would be condemning it.

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          It accomplished nothing after being captured by Democrats and channeled into electoral politics. People thought they could vote to defund the police.

          Democrats promising harm reduction convinced them to go home and stay home.

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            Oh figured you were talking about the women’s March which I thought was advertised as the largest at the time just based on numbers.

            That too didn’t really go great looking at where things are now compared to then.