With all the talk about expensive clients, how to fund the developers and big instances not managing to keep up with the influx of users, I’d like to tell you about my work on Communick and what I am proposing as an alternative model for a sustainable growth of the Fediverse.

Communick operates on what I believe the simplest and fairest model for hosting a service: instead of giving free access to every one and trying to recoup costs by donations or exploiting your data, access to all of Communick instances are based on cheap subscriptions from everyone.

How cheap? Take a look at the current plans. Mastodon access is $9/year and it can be as low as $0.50/month if you join with 10-people “group package”. Lemmy access is $8/year.

Making it subscription-based brings a lot of benefits:

  • the instance only grows if the paying userbase is growing. There is no scrambling for the admins (me) to find a way to deal with a wave of users.
  • Moderation gets a lot easier. Trolls really are not interested in paying just to talk shit on the internet, and the fact that I will have their name on file means that they can’t hide under the veil of anonymity.
  • You will know that the instances will be professionally managed and they won’t disappear because the admins were over their heads, or because they got decided to run a service on a free ccTLD, or because of any case of extreme incompetence.

Other things that I hope can convince you to try these services:

  • I am pledging to give 20% of my profits (ie, profit = revenue - operating expenses - eventual salary for employees) to all the fediverse projects I am running and offering. By signing up with Communick, you will be helping Mastodon, PixelFed, Lemmy, GoToSocial…
  • The servers are in Germany and I am obsessed about ensuring that people can use my services privately and without being tracked. The reason you won’t see a cookie pop-up on my website is because there is no tracking cookie that you need to be warned for. Logs and IP addresses are not kept and used for short-term uses like rate-limiting.

Last but not least: I’m offering FREE FOREVER access to the first 250 users that sign up to Lemmy. Please create an account on the main portal and then sign up for Lemmy. If your username on Lemmy matches your username on the portal, I will approve your access right away.

Thank you for your attention, and don’t hesitate to ask anything.

  • BlizzardEnglish
    15·
    1 year ago

    I will have their name on file means that they can’t hide under the veil of anonymity

    I am obsessed about ensuring that people can use my services privately and without being tracked

    🤔

    • rglullis@communick.newsOPEnglish
      62·
      1 year ago

      I see your point. What I mean is that I will only know that an user has done something stupid if they get reported, and those that are subscribing to a paid plan will be less inclined to do stupid/illegal stuff because they will have gone through some form of KYC.

      I am not tracking your outbound clicks, I am not running any A/B tests, I am not even requiring a valid email address for people to signup. I want to make this as simple and frictionless as possible, except for the friction of payment, which is how I hope I will be able to make the whole system manageable.

        • rglullis@communick.newsOPEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          Stripe. Currently the billing works in “pre-paid” model: you make a deposit and your subscription and there will be scheduled deductions, and the contract gets inactive in case the balance goes negative.

          I also want to make possible to accept crypto, but realistically I am yet to see any customer that is willing to pay $3-4 on ethereum fees to send me 10DAI

      • Thisisforfun@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        What if a user has opinions you don’t like?

        Also I’m not sure I understand the value added service of having you between me and a free Lemmy instance.

        • rglullis@communick.newsOPEnglish
          01·
          1 year ago

          I am not sure I understand the question. Moderation is not about policing everyone’s opinion, but just to ensure that the environment is not toxic. People can disagree on many things and still participate in a civil society.

  • gabe [he/him]@literature.cafeEnglish
    4·
    1 year ago

    This looks excellent! I’m very interested in the matrix plans, as well as the group plans. I like the combined mastodon & matrix plan.

  • CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.spaceEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    What a great idea! I hope this goes well, it seems like a great solution to the profitability problem of the Fediverse. I wish more sites and services used this model.

  • vd1n@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    I’m not sure I’m on board. I see why you want it though.

    4/year for all services and a wiki style donation set up?

    OR a yearly price that goes down with usage? If you use the fediverse enough the price goes down to an irrelevant price like $2/y (for all fedi access). So it starts at say 8/year for all services then goes down based off your activity or like every year you have a login. If you don’t login it cancels the subscription automatically and if you reactivate your account you’re back at 8/year.

    Year one - 8$

    Year two - 6$

    Year three - 4$

    Year four and on - 2$

    And everytime paytime comes around there’s an option to donate more if you want to. Maybe with some other benefit? Link up with an app developer and if you donate 10$+ thank you get to pick from a paid app to get for “free”?

    • rglullis@communick.newsOPEnglish
      51·
      1 year ago

      For the first: I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I don’t like the donation-based model for social media instances. I don’t think it is fair and I think it’s self-limiting.

      For the second: having the price going down with usage might be an interest way to increase “customer loyalty”, but it feels a bit like one of those “growth hacks”. If I saw someone offering that, I am not sure I’d like it. Also, $2/year might not even be enough to cover operational costs, if you factor in things like media storage and backups.

      Maybe I’d have to find a different price policy for people living in middle/low-income countries and I could entertain the idea of “corporate sponsorships” (e.g, every month there would be one pinned post for someone paying for the visibility) to subsidize users but I guess that the average internet user from any OECD country can well afford $8/year. Don’t you?

    • N-E-N@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I like this idea, buying 3 years or something for less sounds nice

  • feugnis@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Is that free forever deal still on? I created a account on the main site and then the lemmy site but didn’t get an email. I can’t login. That was 30 minutes ago. My username is aamira. I don’t want to come off impatient, I just want to make sure this worked before I go to bed. Thanks!

  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.deEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    So… I read your post and the website but I still have no idea how any of this works. Please express yourself more clearly; I would suggest starting with “Communick is…"

    What I understand from this:

    • I can sign up on the website, choose one or more Fediverse services and pay the corresponding amount ($8 for Lemmy) each year.
    • You will create and host an instance for me.
    • To create and use an account on “my” instance, people will need to pay you first, the same fee as I do.
    • There will be no ads, all data stored will be only used to run the instances and the billing system.
    • You will donate 20 % of your profits to a FOSS organization like the Mozilla Foundation or Lemmy devs.

    Is this correct?

    • rglullis@communick.newsOPEnglish
      22·
      1 year ago

      I can sign up on the website, choose one or more Fediverse services and pay the corresponding amount ($8 for Lemmy) each year.

      Correct.

      You will create and host an instance for me. To create and use an account on “my” instance, people will need to pay you first, the same fee as I do.

      Incorrect. The $8/year Lemmy plan gives you access to an account in the “flagship instance”. To get an an instance just for yourself, you would be looking into the “managed hosting” plans. Managed hosting is something completely differerent, you are in full control of the instance, the rules, who to invite, etc. This means that this offering of course has different price points.

      There will be no ads, all data stored will be only used to run the instances and the billing system.

      Correct

      You will donate 20 % of your profits to a FOSS organization like the Mozilla Foundation or Lemmy devs.

      Basically correct, but the important thing is that the idea that I will be donating to the projects related to services I am providing.

      To give a more concrete example: if 30% of the revenue comes from people paying for Lemmy, 40% from Mastodon, 20% from Pixelfed and 10% from Matrix, and if I get $100k in an year profit ( a man can dream), then I will be giving $6k to Lemmy, $8k to Mastodon, $4k to Pixelfed and $2k to the Matrix foundation.