• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Yes, I’d like to be able to keep a longer run of groceries on hand. I’d like to be able.to wash curtains or duvets. I’d like to be able to easily cook the main course of a popular holiday.

    I have a 20 minute drive to a grocery that has everything I need, so I want to do it less frequently. I use my duvet every night so it needs to be cleaned weekly.

    Appliances are to do things. I want to do more things more easily.

    Fridges store food. I don’t want my appetite to dictate the size of my fridge, but the freshness of vegetables and such.

    Washing machines wash things. I want to be able to wash all the things I regularly use without any loss of performance.

    You can’t tell me, that all things being equal, you’d prefer a smaller washer. Or that you want to think / guess about the available space in your fridge if you’re at the store and looking at a purchase at the grocery. “Hmm I want this for a meal, but I don’t think I have space for it” is not and ideal statement.

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      9 months ago

      I have a 20 minute drive to a grocery that has everything I need, so I want to do it less frequently.

      Americans need giant fridges because their city planners suck at their jobs.

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        No, america is fucking big.

        You would not build a rail/bus/hovercar between me and the grocery, even with europlanners.

        Ultimately this does not address my later point: I never worry about if I have space to house a food item I want. When I lived in the UK, in a detached house with a “normal” kitchen, I often thought about the available space at home, while I’m standing in the store. That’s silly.

        Lastly, in many densely populated areas (like Manhattan) you still get full sized fridges, so your euro-density-pubtransit argument again fails.

        Many folks absolutely could walk/bike/train to a grocery, but you can be sure they have full sized fridges 99% of the time.

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          9 months ago

          You shouldn’t need to catch the train to get to the grocery store. There should be one walking distance from your house. American city planners don’t allow grocery stores to be built in residential zones because they’re bad at their jobs.

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            There’s no grocery store by my house because there’s only 10 other houses by my house. Lol you have no clue what you’re talking about.

            America is big and Europe is old.

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                9 months ago

                It’s not a city you silly goose.

                I sought this house, and I’m hardly “remote”.

                Are you really suggesting someone dictate where I live? This isn’t a communist country with worker housing.

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                  I think it’s just a difference between European countries with good government and the rest of the world in the way big industrial areas were repurposed after industrial production moved to other parts of the world. In the last 30-40 years.

                  They may expect a good modern city to look like some old-old districts formed in the times where traveling far for groceries wasn’t an option, surrounded by those big repurposed areas with regular planning and a lot of modern bright shiny stuff on the place of old factories, warehouses etc, and with good public transport.

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                    9 months ago

                    I’m not contesting that eu planning is strong. Their urban areas and even suburban areas are very well connected.

                    But they are tiny.

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      9 months ago

      That’s the problem - I only have to walk 5 minutes for my groceries. There’s really no need to stock up on anything.

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        9 months ago

        But then you are dependant on an errand several times per week

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          Do you just sit at home all the time? I just go to the shop when I’m returning home - pop in for a few minutes and continue on my way. Errands, lol.

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            I always found the concept of spending a day running errands weird and see many TV shows mention this. I guess it’s a 20 minute drive to everything.