• CodeBlooded@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    Holy smokes, working from home is not a “raise.” You should be compensated for the value you bring, not where you’re sitting when you bring value.

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      I spend $400 a month on gas because of my long commute. Work from home is definitely a raise in my situation. Gas bill goes down to $100 a month. Works out directly to a 5% raise just in gas alone. Car insurance can be switched to leisure only saving money further. Gain an extra two hours a day which were unpaid before, so my workday is now only 8 hours instead of 10, that is another equivalent to 25% on an hourly rate indirectly.

      Then there is all the other benefits such as just being happier and more productive.

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      It could be considered a raise in terms of the amount of time you dedicate to work and the amount you get paid for it.

      8 hour shift plus 1 hour commute both ways means you effectively dedicate 10 hours to your job. Replace the commute with a 30 second walk from your bed to your desk and you are now making more money for your time.

      Mind you, I still agree that remote work should be actively viewed as a raise or a perk. It should be the default for jobs that are compatible.

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      Well, financially it can be a raise

      But emotionally, it has no equivalent and is like losing a toxic work element

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      In terms of time returned, gas, wear & tear, etc., I would consider being told to go back to the office as a pay cut.

      If I’m being asked to sit somewhere else, then I would definitely want to be compensated for that.

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      I view it as a benefit, and I’m willing to make concessions on salary for additional or better benefits. Arguably you could have both, but I think unionization is required for that and I’m in a low unionization industry.

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      Especially galling since if I were to move to a cheaper region my company would want to pay me less. It’s “we only pay you for the value you bring” when cost of living goes up, but “we want some of those lifestyle savings” if I can get my costs down.

      How convenient.

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      It is in the sense that commute time is not paid so compared to commuting jobs your effective hourly wage goes up. Also, commuting time is actually a negative wage.

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      Before the pandemic I was spending almost 2 hours a day on my commute to office, while being on site for 9 hours with an unpaid one hour lunch break. That’s 20% of my working hours.

      I can use this time for entertainment and side projects

      There’s not enough money in the world to pay for the time I save.

      Besides, I save a lot on gas and food, and gain much more comfort (my house, my coffee, my chair, my screens, my toilets)

      To be perfectly clear, if my company wants me back to office they will have to raise me more than 30%.

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      Holy smokes, working from home is not a “raise.”

      Sure it’s not a raise, but that’s not really the question. The question is the hidden cost that companies are imposing on themselves by demanding that employees come into an office. If employers are going to demand that out of their employees, they should do that with the expectation that employees will ask to be compensated or will leave.