Hi,

I am (very, very early) in the process of degoogling. I am definitely not a high risk as far as needing to be completely locked down. It’s more about trying to have a little more control over how my data is used.

I am looking at Graphene OS, but I am a little confused how certain apps (that rely on Google services) work. I have a Pixel 8 and will have it for the foreseeable future.

The apps I currently use that I would still need (or their equivalents) are:

  • Clash Royale (Supercell)
  • Notion (Notion Labs)
  • Clickup (Mango Technologies)
  • Business Calendar 2 (Appgenix)

  1. If I installed these exact apps “sandboxed”, what exactly does that mean from a user standpoint? Will I have to use a separate account, reboot my phone, etc, or is it a quick process to use the app?

  2. Is there a list of apps that I could browse to find equivalents to the above? Recommendations here are also ok.

  3. I saw that Firefox isn’t exactly private(?) and that Vanadium is better in that aspect but I don’t understand why. Can someone ELI5, and help me see if this is a relevant concern for me?

Thank you! 😁

    • youmaynotknow@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      Dude, your guide is amazing. Many apps you suggest intersect with my preferred apps (for example Joplin. Best Notes app I’ve ever used, on any device).

      I’m going to he playing with Invizible Pro once I go back to Calyx (I plan on doing it this weekend because this werk has proven to be insane at work, and I dont want to do ANYTHING after I turn off my PC).

      The double-VPN option, insanity, I jad no idea that was even possible.

      Granted, the guide is 2 years old, but most of those still work today, even on Android 14.

      And big Kudos on all the links providedbto shed light on Apple’s bullshit “it’s for your security” politically correct discourse. This shows how little people are willing to reseach before choosing a device.

      In any case, I for one still think that degoogling a Pixel device is the best option for my use, since I’m very happy just stripping them out of their original software (system and apps), and runninf over to Calyx or Graphene. I can’t say why, I just like to do it. Plus, in my experience, pretty buttery smooth for what I do.

        • youmaynotknow@lemmy.ml
          2·
          8 months ago

          Thanks a lot man. That’s a fair point. Not many people have the know-how and the drive to dig 30 pages down search engines looking for that 1 person with their exact same issue and how to solve it, having to go down the road of asking in the official communities. And if they’re going to be faced with vexation over even considering a different option, that’s toxicity at it’s highest level. That’s Nazi behavior right there.

          In any case, remember i said I was going to go back to Calyx, because “why not”? Well, I saw myself with some spare time yesterday, and here we are 🤣.

          And you’re right, my main drive is just that: “FUCK Google, Crapple, Microshot, EA, Meta, the governments (all of them), and everyone else that wants my information without my consent”. It’s not my only drive, but certainly the top one, followed closely by “if I can do it, why not?”.

          I’ll change those settings too, and will be test-driving some of the apps and tricks in your guide that don’t intersect with mine, as well as the ones that are completely news to me.

          Thanks again man.

          Edit: Just changed the settings:

    • youmaynotknow@lemmy.ml
      1·
      8 months ago

      Most of what you mention here I had no idea existed, and I appreciate you sharing it.

      As for the scope granularity, this is a simple example for both, Telegram (Nekogram in my case):

      Access to 1 contact (added as an example, because in reality i don’t give it access to any of my contacts).

      And access to 1 PNG image.

      Also, thanks for sharing your guide. I’ll go over it as soon as I’m off work.

      On how the GrapheneOS team chooses to use fearmongering to make people believe there are no other options, I don’t follow people or waste my time going into those threads and conversations. Doing thqt would be like asking people over at Google why I should avoid Google. That’s yet another reason why I like to have these types of discussions with open communities, the chances of a fully biased point of view decreases dramatically (although it’s never fully eliminated).