Come, vent, chat meme a little. How was everyone’s Easter weekend? I had a uncomfortable but fine dinner with estranged relatives. I’m going to start posting the POC weekly threads on Mondays now.

  • Othello [comrade/them, love/loves]@hexbear.netOPM
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    Really disappointed by the Hexbear crackers for that one thread. Way too many “booohoo poor me and my white feelings” with way too many upvotes. At some point, it’s my own fault for being disappointed in Hexbear Because that means I held them to, too high of a standard, and I should know better.

    • Rojo27 [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Didn’t realize that thread had blown up into a full on struggle session. Sucks that anytime a POC points out a legitimate concern people come out of the woodwork to minimize their concerns.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      3 months ago

      I just checked that thread again, and damn, I got out called out by the resident cracker who constantly malds about the word “cracker” but he didn’t bother tagging me like the coward he is lmao. If you check his history, it’s very obvious he has a problem with people who aren’t white, and he only gets away with it because Hexbear is too white and a lot of his bullshit flies under the radar of most white people.

      But he’s an afterthought that barely merits real attention. The actual people I don’t feel comfortable about are the white trans people who said, “I do the same with cis people too.” Look, Angel is also trans, and if they wanted to make a point about not trusting cis progressives in the same way, Angel would’ve done so. But they didn’t. It’s just another way for white people to make everything be about themselves.

      • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        17
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        What gets me is if you’re talking about who I think you’re talking about, he totally curved anything I had to say. I deliberately addressed him and he’d have rather responded to the guy who responded to me rather than me directly like he’s one of these .works crackers; shit’s honestly sickening.

        • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          3 months ago

          And he’s still curving me to this day-- I’m beginning to think ol boy has a problem with Black folk and Black views. The type of cracker to only want you around if you’re willing to pledge 100% uncritical assimilationism, fucking disgusting

      • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        3 months ago

        If you talk about someone behind their back on Hexbear (without tagging them) then that’s fucking rude and should at least net you a warning or temp-ban, imho.

    • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      3 months ago

      Was it a full-on “white people are oppressed” bogus situation?

      If not, and it’s what I think it is, let 'em vent for now.

      Once they do so, many will know better.

      I upvoted your comment and agree with you, but getting worked up over what shenanigans white people are up to and their lack of self-criticism at times will just get you flummoxed constantly.

      The best policy is to patiently explain that they’re wrong to see themselves as victims of racism.

      Some will balk and whine, others will realize their wrong.

      It’s going to be a long time till white people are a minority so let’s not ruin our mental health over it.

      That’s my policy, anyway.

      stalin-approval

      • Othello [comrade/them, love/loves]@hexbear.netOPM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        3 months ago

        it was more like “saying you dont immediately trust white leftist makes ME sad, what about MY feeling” and “were not gonna get a working class movement like this!” (implying that thats poc peoples fault). and yeah i am no longer arguing with these people online, i have not seen any reason to think that i am capable of making a white person understand something that they are determined to misunderstand. im think ill leave that work to my other poc comrades and save my mental energy for irl crackers.

        • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          16
          ·
          3 months ago

          lol You got it. Maybe I’ll try to bridge the gap.

          Yeah, they may not have ultimately meant it, but they definitely seemed to ultimately imply what you were relaying here of that interaction.

          We need solidarity but it must be coalitionary as well and that means recognizing that some groups are more oppressed than others. I once saw a POC comrade say that “it’s not an oppression Olympics” but I disagree with what they were getting at; if you’re Autistic, trans, and POC, then you’re more oppressed than a white Autistic person or POC person or trans person, imho.

          That isn’t to say that that singularly trans or POC or Autistic person are not suffering, but immediately, say, talking about BIPOC and how we’re all " not gonna get a working-class movement like this!" is a wrong look and sends the wrong message.

          Honestly, we need to communicate better, imho.

    • Noven [any]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      3 months ago

      Just looked at that thread, Angel’s comment really rings true. Having to wait for someone to really show their true colors before I can bring it up with other white friends since otherwise i’ll pick up a reputation as an instigator what-the-hell Usually with Europeans it’s when you accidentally send the secret activation codes to trigger an unhinged rant about Romani people.

  • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    Easter was fine… our family and I went to a Catholic church and the usual outings (yk, it’s quite multi-ethnic there, with there being South-Asians, Filipinos, Polish etc.)

    Honestly, I feel bored and hollow, especially after a lack of sleep (6h) and some caffeine resulting from one of those drinks I had in the outing… (matcha bubble tea I think)

    I’m trying to catch with reading Das Kapital… now at Chapter 14…

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        Don’t worry pal, you can pass easily Chapters 4-6, then after you deal with larger ones like 7, 8-9,

        Chapter 10 is a sudden shitshow, that’s followed by an okayish 11-13, followed by Chapter 14 then 15… (Agh…, I dread it now that I go closer, it’s like 152 pages or somethin’ )

        I’ve resorted at this point to just copy and pasting down the damn chapters and underlining anything interesting on google docs… I’ll dm them to ye…

        It’s admittedly shoddy, but hey, it kinda helps for me I guess

  • Teekeeus [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    3 months ago

    I’m glad that europe is on the self-destructive atlanticist path instead of having ties with (and thus gaining from) the Russia/China bloc.

    With Russia, China, Central Asia, Southeast Asia, etc who needs those useless gardeners anyway

    • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      3 months ago

      At times, I feel the same way, but honestly, it could just stall revolution in Europe, Japan, and other countries aligned with the U.S.

      Otherwise, they could turn fascist and, thus, have a no-holds-barred approach to foreign policy (which could prove successful if they’re willing to do anything and everything to still be on top).

      It’ll be even worse for the proletarian movements in the West (people’s movements like BIPOC, LGBTQ+, Autistic and other disabled people, etc.).

      Imagine if the West just becomes a stalwart of capitalism and fascism (even more than now)? If they strengthen their “base areas” then they can easily retake parts of Africa, Asia, Latin America, etc.

      Not saying that it couldn’t backfire, but it could also backfire against us.

  • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    3 months ago

    Maybe a controversial and weird question, but I only feel comfortable asking in this thread.

    I’m kinda interested in reading Mein Kampf for anti-Nazi reasons. I know it’s going to be garbage but I’m curious from an historical perspective. I don’t want to steal it, I used to steal food but I’m thankfully in a position now where stealing would hurt me now more than help me (solidarity though), but I also don’t want to support Mein Kampf financially for obvious reasons.

    Are there any non-Nazi publishers of Mein Kampf to purchase it from? I realize this is probably a ridiculously stupid question but I just wanted to check if there’s any good way for anti-fascists to aquire it. I know I can probably just download a PDF and I’ll probably do that but I do like to have physical copies of books.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    3 months ago

    The beauty of Latin America is just how diverse people are and how people can be mixed without you even knowing.

    My brother came over with his wife and son for Easter. He’s married to a pale English woman and their son shares her whiteness lol. You would never know he’s mixed unless you looked at his parents.

    The kind of annoying part is how they insist he’s a light shade of brown when everyone else seems him as a little white boy.

  • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    3 months ago

    I got up at a normal time today. Feels good. Should be able to fix my sleep schedule before my next therapy session. You know how there are wife guys? Well, I’m a therapy guy

          • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            3 months ago

            Well depends if you get some people together. I would be at least intrigued…also depends on the time and system we are gonna play etc.

            • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              3 months ago

              I’ve been looking into copyleft. I don’t know what, for example, ProleWiki uses as its website or domain. I have no idea how to make a website and one that won’t be taken down by the state

              • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.net
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                3 months ago

                Are we…are we talking about the same thing ? I thought you were asking for people to play a table top rpg with. Why do we need a website for that ? I assumed a discord server/ call would be enough. Plus I doubt our ttrpg group would get into hotwater since its not like a political organization…unless im missing something.

                • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  Oh!

                  I got the responses mixed up!

                  I was responding from my inbox on the top-right and thought you were talking about my Wikipedia alternative idea.

                  Yes, we could do a Discord server, if anyone is up for it.

                  And no, we don’t need an entire political organization for this.

                  But yes, now i know that you’re talking about my TTRPG idea and not my “Wikipedia alternative for communists” idea (think: EcuRed).

              • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.net
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                edit-2
                3 months ago

                I have literally never played any TTRPG. I’m aware of the lore of some TTRPGs such as Pathfinder because I played the CRPGs, and I know a bit about things such as D&D, World of Darkness, Shadowrun, and Cyberpunk… because I’m a nerd. BUT I’m a complete noob with 0 knowledge about actual gameplay systems and never played a full session of any TTRPG. Just as a disclaimer. I would love to play TTRPGs someday though; I’ve always wanted to try it. I would be fine with most TTRPGS just hope they dont involve a ton of math because I suck at numbers,

                • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  Ah! You played the CRPGs? Both of them? I loved those. Wrath of the Righteous was the best. Haven’t played the Warhammer 40K game yet. Also, I can get you up to speed on Pathfinder, if you want, and on the gameplay, which is basically just following along your stats and making decisions. Hell, the DM (Dungeon Master) does all the work.

                  And the DM can do the math for you.

  • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    3 months ago

    Would anyone be willing to do a Wikipedia alternative for communists with me? One with the Hexbear brand or maybe our own project entirely?

    With a special focus on BIPOC, LGBTQ+, and labor movements and other people’s movements (including Autistic movements).

    Would have an extensive Spanish section that stakes from EcuRed (Cuba’s Wikipedia).