• Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    69
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 months ago

    “The amount of heat gained by a Bedouin exposed to the hot desert is the same whether he wears a black or a white robe. The additional heat absorbed by the black robe was lost before it reached the skin.”

    Bedouin robes, the scientists noted, are worn loose. Inside, the cooling happens by convection - either through a bellows action, as the robes flow in the wind, or by a chimney sort of effect, as air rises between robe and skin.

    Thus it was conclusively demonstrated that, at least for Bedouin robes, black is as cool as any other colour.

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2006/aug/15/research.highereducation

      • MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        40
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        Umm…

        Reflection is just as effective as absorption. As long as the UV isn’t passing through the fabric into you, you are fine.

        Well butter my biscuit, I might be wrong. There are other of factors to take into account, but it makes sense that, the portion of light that does make it through a light fabric will keep on reflecting inside the garment until it is absorbed or escapes back out. Like a photography light box.

    • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      5 months ago

      Its a bit misleading. Black clothes will absorb the heat from the sun and your body and then the clothes will cool via convection. So the wind blowing through the clothes takes the heat away. White will reflect the heat from the sun away and your body back towards you.

      Im sure theres some debate and probably way more to it but i have always felt more comfortable in the heat than other people and i wear darker clothes the majority of the time. If that anecdote bares any weight.

      • BCsven@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        Google says : colors do not absorb different amounts of heat, only heat from light.

      • Funderpants @lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        Are you telling me a human body is different from a manikan torso?

        Seriously though, I think you’re onto something.

  • proctonaut@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    6 months ago

    Is there any way to tell the difference between infrared reflected between (I assume) 8 and 13 microns and the infrared emitted due to absorption of shorter wavelengths?

  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    That’s not exactly heat absorbtion though. Infrared cameras capture the heat radiated by the shirts and black color is the one that radiates heat the best. That’s why matt black is the worst color for a thermos and chrome is the best.

    • Umbrias@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      5 months ago

      If they have identical or close enough emissivity it is directly proportional to heat absorption, as given identical amounts of time in the sun and air flow, temperature will almost entirely depend in absorptivity, and emitted infrared is proportional to temperature^4.

      Black bodies emit and absorb perfectly. These probably all have an emissivity that’s lower than a blackbody, and very close together, while absorptivity is related to the color of the shirt. So this test is actually fairly indicative.

  • stoy
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    5 months ago

    Just get some loose linnen button down shirts, they are fantastic

  • spicy pancake
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    5 months ago

    my friends make fun of me for wearing black in the summertime but i am more uncomfortable wearing non-black than i am just sweating it out 🫠

  • Blackout@kbin.run
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    5 months ago

    What about sequined shirts? If I get the right angle I can boil a cup of water within seconds while staying cool inside. For an extra barrier I wrap my body in foil, keeps the 5g out as a bonus.

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 months ago

    Also a good indicator of why must plants use chlorophyll, which primarily reflect green light in our planet’s biosphere.

  • Donkter@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    5 months ago

    So does black make a significant difference when it’s colder? Or is it only noticable when there’s harsh sun?

  • mtchristo@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 months ago

    I still can’t get myself to wear a white T-shirt despite me wanting it.

      • Wahots@pawb.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        Do you use aluminum/antiperspirants? I think that is what causes the staining.

        • spicy pancake
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          5 months ago

          yup, the aluminum basically acts as a mordant for the natural yellowish stain of sweat and its microbial metabolites

          best to skip antiperspirant when wearing white shirts. aluminum-free deodorant (there is no such thing as aluminum free antiperspirant, btw) can help mask BO but will not stop sweat. but if you like white shirts that’s probably a decent trade-off.

          zinc oxide is a decent deodorant ingredient that doesn’t prevent sweating but does slow down microbes that eat sweat and release odorous compounds

          avoid baking soda if you have sensitive skin as it can raise your skin pH to uncomfortable levels. ymmv

    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      5 months ago

      Well a dog. Could guess it I mean.

      If dogs can guess things, which I don’t even know if they can. But maybe.

      I think maybe a dog could guess it.

  • tigeruppercut
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    5 months ago

    How is a light gray that much warmer than yellow? Seems suspicious 🤔

    • Shawdow194@kbin.run
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      5 months ago

      I guess gray is just black and white mixed, and black does not do very well

      Yellow also reflects a tonne of UV and IR light. Probably helps make it so much more visible to everything than other colors