Essentially do you see any big modern marxist public figures coming in as the “old guard” ages out? Who?

  • QueerCommie@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    1 year ago

    There are other decent figures who are younger. Vijay Prishad is only 55. We’ve got everyone in the revleft podcast family. In addition, more zoomer centered figures like the deprogram people and hasan.

    • TarkovSurvivor@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Came here to say Vijay as well even tho he’s not that young he should have a good 20+ years in him still, hopefully.

  • qwename@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Two people in this thread say that with the internet, we can move away from “big public figures”/“big thinkers”. While I appreciate this optimism, it just sounds very anti-authoritarian, and I quote from Engels On Authority:

    Why do the anti-authoritarians not confine themselves to crying out against political authority, the state? All Socialists are agreed that the political state, and with it political authority, will disappear as a result of the coming social revolution, that is, that public functions will lose their political character and will be transformed into the simple administrative functions of watching over the true interests of society. But the anti-authoritarians demand that the political state be abolished at one stroke, even before the social conditions that gave birth to it have been destroyed. They demand that the first act of the social revolution shall be the abolition of authority.

    There are anti-government and anti-“big corp/business” tendencies in the US/West, which I will call “anti-authority” for now. The essense of “anti-authority” in capitalist countries is anti-capitalism, or anti-“dictatorship of the bourgeoisie”, but there is a gap in this logic that stops people from turning into marxists right away, as they might instead become anarchists. This gap in logic will not be closed just by having everyone have access to free information through the internet, as there is too much information to digest, and imperialists will also interfere with the propagation of marxist ideology.

    “Anti-authoritarian” sentiments do have positive outcomes, like decentralized technologies (think internet, bittorrent, p2p, fediverse etc.), the open source software movement, but these only serve as tools, they are the means and not the end.

      • Navaryn@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Comrade, get a hold of yourself. A hundred generations live in us, waiting for the final victory of socialism. And if it won’t be us, it’s going to be our sons and daughters

  • Gresham Law/TheyThem@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    1 year ago

    More of just barks & make beliefs, the US system is doomed to no avail but here we are watching it all crumble.
    It will only get worse with the economic warfare, Repression/Regression/Chaos/Divide/Disorder.

    The 4th Reich is a fitting name, they keep destroying progressive movements from the inside anyway.
    To What End really, honestly don’t want to know the answer to this question but you gotta ask yourself was it worth it?

    Check out Ben Norton & Radhika Desai’s work and a recently discovered one for more context:

    Decolonised history by Historicly & Deep-State by Aaron Good:

    Edit:
    Added links & more content

    • alekhine_alexander@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Hi comrade, is something wrong with bad empanada? I watched a few of his and thought it was pretty neat. I am asking because you mention him together with vaush.

      • AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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        1 year ago

        He doesn’t acknowledge PRC’s achievements, doesn’t support AES except Cuba (I think) and doesn’t align himself with other anti-imperialists. He attacks journalists critical of the west, I faintly recall a bona fide NED spook quote tweeting BE to attack the Greyzone.

        Insofar as he limits himself to attacking rightists, especially the ones claiming to be socialists, he’s fine.

        • QueerCommie@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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          1 year ago

          He calls himself socialist, supports LatAm social democracy, and defended Stalin from holodomor lies, but he constantly has bad China takes, and his streaming channel is toxic.

  • Soviet Snake@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Zizek! I’m kidding, but maybe the answer is not in the West, but elsewhere, and maybe the media just doesn’t pay attention to them because it is in their best interest.

    • Preston Maness ☭@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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      1 year ago

      But in terms of “folks I’ve been reading that seem to have decent takes:”

      • Roderic Day of redsails.org has put out some really good pieces in my opinion.
      • Peter Coffin has a mixture of good takes and bad ones. He’s stubborn on holding onto transphobia – or at least, transphobia-adjacent comments – and his “LGBTQ+ is a bourgeois ideology” take, which, so far as I can tell, may be one of those “okay, ‘technically correct’ under your framing of it, but thoroughly counter-productive seeing as literally nobody else frames the issue in this way.” Unfortunately, he’s recommended stuff from PatSoc Caleb Maupin before too. Basically, I see potential in Coffin, clouded by problems.
      • What I have read of Xi Jinping – which isn’t much – has been solid.

      So yeah, if you’re looking for heroes, I wouldn’t hold your breath. But there’s life to be found in the world of Marxism.

  • AdvancedAktion@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    1 year ago

    No one mentioned our second habibi, HasanAbi🤤. What Iam seeing is more like stochastic forms of learning among people which lackes centre public figures. I do not think this is bad but moving forward figures who can put theory in to practice should emerge and it will.

  • Navaryn@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I actually think that with the internet and everything, we will gradually move away from “big thinkers”. Sure, there will still be people producing decent theory, but i just can’t see in the current world a russian revolution like scenario when whole shifts at factories would meet up to read Marx.

    I believe we will move towards a sort of “crowdsourced” theory where the main theoretical line is born organically out of continuos communication and discussion until we eventually get to a point where most contradictions and disagreements are solved. At that point the “big thinker” and his work will be one of many inputs, and not some sort of ideological hegemon.

    Sort of like it is happening on here. We didn’t read the same stuff, but with time the community shaped itself to a point where we substantially agree with each other on pretty much everything.