Asking as it seems nobody wants one based on the reception of the Pixel 9
AI Phones or AI laptops are IMO a pure marketing invention.
Qualcomm laptops has some intriguing locally computed functions
So what? Every laptop has a gpu do you call them gpu laptops? Modern CPUs/SOCs accelerate a lot of things, this is just one more.
Nvidia called the ray tracing gpus RTX. Now all of them has that chip, all of them are called RTX. Same will happen here, in 5 years every cpu will be “AI” and no one will call it that way
True, they have some interesting features. But at least if they use Windows ML, these apps can run on any hardware. The only difference is the performance that can be achieved.
They said something in the video you linked that the developers could use a larger model thanks to the performance of the Snapdragon Chip. And with Davinci, they said that the performance with NPU is better than with GPU.
What I’m trying to say is that these things are not a new invention of 2024. NPUs were introduced at least 7 years ago (for ARM CPUs). The Microsoft APIs have been there for three years. The only new thing is the marketing hype around AI.
Nope. It’s getting to the point I don’t even want a smartphone anymore. In fact, I just bought a “dumb” phone and am going to try using that as my daily driver for a month and see how it goes. Should be delivered this afternoon, and I’ll be starting the experiment tomorrow, hopefully.
I for one would like a local AI assistant of some sort, but I’d also want to be in full control of which of my files, correspondences, locations, contacts, purchases and sex-toys the assistant is aware of on an item to item basis.
Of course that’s not going to happen because fuck my privacy.
Instead we’re going to be forcefed something extremely privacy-invasive, which will really just be a new vehicle for selling stuff to us that we don’t need and eventually it will leak all of the data.
Came here to say this. If I had an AI buddy that could do all sorts of stuff for me and talk about history all day with me on long drives while making sure I was perfectly safe and secure and basically be my best artificial friend…
I’d be riding that train.
you can.make a local ai homeserver and access it remotely from your phone.mahbe even tie it to some automation features idk
Your average smartphone user definitely can’t. I mght, but I strongly doubt it is worth the effort for now.
I will do it some time just for the coolness factor
sex-toys
obviously any ai girlfriend should have full control of all of the sextoys
Imo, the current meaning for AI is just another way for companies to take even more of your data and embed more invasive technologies.
Edit: No thanks
I would if I’d be able to run my own models, it’d be better than having to connect to my server.
But AFAIK these features won’t be available to all developers, so I’m guessing only Google apps will be able to properly use the potential of the phone.The P9 is supposed to have an on-device image gen model that was touted as being able to be used even without an internet connection
Stock-wise you’re stuck with whatever model Google ships it with, but I’m curious to see what happens when they get out in the wild and rooted. With some luck, the model is stored within Android somewhere (as in not on a special chip or something, which I don’t think it is because I saw a video of its demonstration and they had to download and install the model for the initial setup) and might be able to be swapped out/tinkered with with root. Though that’s probably going to take months or longer depending on how it’s configured/protected
On-device stuff? Sure I’ll take it. But not ones that connect online.
Investors/Shareholders. They cum each time they hear the word AI
Except for the people who know what they are doing. As it turns out a lot of actual business people looked at the insane amount of money going into AI and realized it would take a huge return plus potentially decades to break even.
You don’t need to understand “AI” to see that pouring billions into something that doesn’t have a business model could be a bad bet.
Hell no.
I want the original Google Now, because it actually worked.
That and Inbox were peak Google.
I held on to Inbox as long as I could, it was simply better.
You could use DDG or a lot of meta search engines :)
Does that work like Google now?
no, but it is what I use.
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Want it or not, you’re gonna get it. The industry is going balls deep with it and I doubt AI phones are even the tip of the iceberg. They’re gonna use the shit in everything.
The hardware industry wants to sell new devices. Most software companies just upload your data to the cloud and to the AI magic there (e.g. ChatGPT, Bing Image creator).
False.
I want a phone that doesn’t blast telemetry everywhere eating my battery. I want a phone that lasts a week between charges. I also want (most) apps to go away and stick to the web so my browser can keep me safe from them.
My favorite e-commerce experience has been at breweries and comedy clubs. Scan QR code, order on web page. Receive SMS to get back to page. Pay on page when done, close tab. Our exchange of information has completed. Maybe they send an email later, maybe not.
Versus apps tracking the status of your colon 24/7.
Not now. Maybe it’ll be useful once the bubble bursts and a few actually decent uses for something that could actually run on a phone emerge from the rubble and actually work.
At the moment I’m not seeing a whole lot overall that actually works unless you’re an expert using it for science or something like that.
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Selecting text from images has nothing to do with AI and predates the AI hype craze.
Err… That’s definitively AI.
AI is just any computer algorithm that does a task that would be aimed to require human intelligence.
Identifying text in an image is a non-trivial task, so OCR is a type of AI algorithm.
That said, I assume “AI phones” are probably not using the term AI in the general sense; presumably they just mean that it uses MM-LLMs somehow.
Wrong. People like you are exactly what is wrong with the overhype in IT
Just FYI, I’m pretty sure you’re confusing “AI” and “AGI”.
Even enemy behavior is videogames is “AI”, but obviously is not “General Intelligence”.
I think the problem is Hollywood confusing the two terms, so people think AI = Skynet, but that’s not the technical definition in Computer Science.
I do use text generation whenever I’m doing a simple small bit of coding on hobby projects and want to write a function without navigating pages of stackoverflow for the right syntax. Although even then, I rarely actually am able to use the function without some form of slight adjustments
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