This comment was in response to someone expressing regret about joining .ml if I recall correctly

Edit: I’m convinced all this guy does is camp out in front of his computer and wait for an excuse to abuse what itty bitty power he has.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    263·
    2 months ago

    Genocide denialism is probably one of the least objectionable reasons to get banned from a community.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        42·
        2 months ago

        Yeah. Unfortunately. All we can do is voice opposition to whichever one is achieving its goals at any given moment - Hamas in the immediate aftermath of October 7th, and Israel now.

        Maybe someday they’ll sit the fuck down and figure out that this conflict can’t continue forever. Well, Hamas and Bibi never will, but whatever representatives of the Palestinian and Israeli people emerge from the other side of this phase of our everlasting Israel-Palestine conflict.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        176·
        2 months ago

        A genocide isn’t waging war, a genocide is actively hunting civilians and making life impossible.

        Yeah, that’s what Israel is doing

        I don’t know what else you get from Israel’s actions and stated concerns. In a year, they’ve killed a greater percentage of Gazans than Coalition forces killed Iraqis in all ~10 years of the Iraq War. And Coalition forces in Iraq were (rightfully) accused of being metaphorically trigger-happy.

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
            83·
            2 months ago

            So, what would you accept as a credible source for Israeli genocide, theoretically?

                • ahornsirup@feddit.orgEnglish
                  51·
                  2 months ago

                  Majority. As long as they can present convincing evidence (i.e. evidence that doesn’t rely on trusting the word of Hamas and/or their friends in Doha and Tehran).

                  Edit: I’ll also say that I trust some Western governments more than others. I’ll take the word of the current German government over that of the current Italian one, for example.

                  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
                    42·
                    2 months ago

                    Understanding that any government declaration that Israel is committing genocide would necessarily require politically hazardous action in accompaniment, do you require that the majority of Western governments declare Israel is committing genocide, or only that a significant and credible portion of the legal and foreign policy institutions of Western governments declare as much?

              • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
                53·
                2 months ago

                As mentioned above, there is no genocide, and that’s why no credible source is speaking about a genocide.

                Theoretically speaking, what sources would you accept as authoritative on the matter of an ongoing genocide?

                  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
                    73·
                    2 months ago

                    There is no credible authority body that calles or doesn’t call something genocide, genocide has a very clear definition and genocide is defined according to that definition,

                    Then why say

                    and that’s why no credible source is speaking about a genocide.

                    as an objection?

                    You’re all over the place.

      • mindbleach@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        74·
        2 months ago

        A genocide is what hamas did on 7th October

        Okay, so you’re just making shit up as you go along.

        One attack cannot be a genocide.

        An ongoing campaign to deprive an entire population of food, water, medicine, electricity, and any route to escape is pretty fucking obviously within the UN definition of genocide.